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la .van. cu cusku di'e
> Actually since someone first told me that brivla are allowed
> cmene I always disliked even that quite a lot. It's too easy to confuse
> these "names" with the bridi meaning.

Then how do people not get confused about someone being called Amado or=20
Aim=E9? And even if they do, I'm confident that you can tell apart {la}=20
from {lo}, which are even clearer.

> Nothing against you selpa'i,
> but you're definitely not my beloved and if e.g. {coi selpa'i} leaves
> this open, I'm pretty pissed.

On IRC at least, {coi broda} is considered the same as {coi le broda},=20
not {coi la broda}.

To me, {coi selpa'i} greets someone beloved, not someone named=20
"selpa'i". If you want to greet me, say {coi la selpa'i} or I won't=20
assume you mean me.

> Also in NatLangs not having this distinction
> can introduce formal ambiguities for colloquial speech (german: "Der Muel=
ler
> ist zuverlaessig" - {la OR lo mlopre cu se lacri}).

But not in Lojban. We have la and lo to disambiguate.

> I strongly agree with la lojbab on that one:
> brivla are nicknames, NOT proper names.

I don't see why that should be so. Seems quite arbitrary.

> If you wish to make them names, use cmene that look similar
> or end in non-final rafsi.

My name is "selpa'i" and nothing else. I do not identify with any other=20
string of letters. My name is not {.selpa'is.} and also not {.selpam.},=20
those are entirely different names.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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