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[68.230.241.214]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id xs5si4895883vdb.3.2013.05.31.03.14.33 for ; Fri, 31 May 2013 03:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 68.230.241.214 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) client-ip=68.230.241.214; Received: from eastrmimpo109 ([68.230.241.222]) by eastrmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130531101433.RACV17573.eastrmfepo102.cox.net@eastrmimpo109> for ; Fri, 31 May 2013 06:14:33 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([72.209.248.61]) by eastrmimpo109 with cox id iaEY1l00C1LDWBL01aEY73; Fri, 31 May 2013 06:14:32 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020209.51A87808.012A,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Dv2IDhD+ c=1 sm=1 a=z9jnGXjs1dxvEuWvIXKNSw==:17 a=YsUzL_8ObRgA:10 a=kGrBj7_89DgA:10 a=xmHE3fpoGJwA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=8YJikuA2AAAA:8 a=80FJE3sM9_cA:10 a=qqo6cUUC6wiJ0PildEsA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=8dzIKX_7VIkA:10 a=_RhRFcbxBZMA:10 a=z9jnGXjs1dxvEuWvIXKNSw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <51A87809.8010607@lojban.org> Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 06:14:33 -0400 From: Robert LeChevalier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] cmevla as a class of brivla References: <51A379EF.3020803@gmx.de> <51A6685C.3010505@lojban.org> <51A747F3.7060000@gmx.de> <51A74B32.3010705@gmx.de> <51A74E91.5080106@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 68.230.241.214 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) smtp.mail=lojbab@lojban.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 7:05 AM, selpa'i > wrote: > > la .aionys. cu cusku di'e > > And how would you determine when to use that interpretation and > when to > use the current one? > > > What? > > Tanru depend on context, that's how you glork their expansion. What > is "the current interpretation"? You make it sound like I changed > anything. > > > The current interpretation is {lo broda brode} == {lo brode cu klesi lo > broda} I suggest you reread sections 14 and 15 of http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter5.html And forgive me for not trying to figure out all the meanings of melbi cmalu tsani ckule that can be expressed using the appropriate insertion of cmavo, assuming that tsani is a name rather than real brivla (and not necessarily the name of something that can be meaningfully melbi and/or cmalu) "lo me la tsani ku/me'u brode" works for me if I really want to use a name in a tanru, and it has the advantage that I know it is a name and not an ordinary brivla, and the grammar is clear even if not "simple". lojbab -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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