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Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 06:32:35 -0600
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Subject: Re: [lojban] cmevla as a class of brivla
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On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:06 AM, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de> wrote:

> la .lojbab. cu cusku di'e
>
>  "cmevla" means nothing to me as a concept.
>>
>
> What used to be called "cmene" is now commonly called "cmevla". A cmevla
> is a word that ends in a consonant. Calling such words "cmene" causes too
> much confusion, because cmene means "name", and brivla can be names, too,
> which means that "cmene" got used as meaning one thing in English, and
> another in Lojban, thus confusing people.
>
> Nowadays it's more common to use the word "cmevla" to refer to the
> morphological class of "name-words".


I don't think it helped. I always get the two backwards. I hear cmene, I
think "the words that end in a consonant and are surrounded by denpa bu". I
hear cmevla, I think "a word that comes after {la} and its relatives".

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.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:06 AM, selpa&#39;i <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:seladwa@gmx.de" target=3D"_blank">sela=
dwa@gmx.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
la .lojbab. cu cusku di&#39;e<div class=3D"im"><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
&quot;cmevla&quot; means nothing to me as a concept.<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
What used to be called &quot;cmene&quot; is now commonly called &quot;cmevl=
a&quot;. A cmevla is a word that ends in a consonant. Calling such words &q=
uot;cmene&quot; causes too much confusion, because cmene means &quot;name&q=
uot;, and brivla can be names, too, which means that &quot;cmene&quot; got =
used as meaning one thing in English, and another in Lojban, thus confusing=
 people.<br>

<br>
Nowadays it&#39;s more common to use the word &quot;cmevla&quot; to refer t=
o the morphological class of &quot;name-words&quot;.</blockquote><div></div=
><br>I don&#39;t think it helped. I always get the two backwards. I hear cm=
ene, I think &quot;the words that end in a consonant and are surrounded by =
denpa bu&quot;. I hear cmevla, I think &quot;a word that comes after {la} a=
nd its relatives&quot;.<br>
</div><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .aionys.<br><br>.i.e&#39;ucai ko cmima l=
o pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo&#39;o<br>(Come to the Dot Si=
de! Luke, I am your father. :D )<br>

<p></p>

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