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Jonathan Jones wrote:
> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:35 AM, Robert LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org
> <mailto:lojbab@lojban.org>> wrote:
>
>     <snip>
>     Personally, the thing that probably keeps most people from learning
>     Lojban is the same thing that keeps them from learning nay other
>     language, natural or artificial.  That is vocabulary.  Adults need a
>     couple thousand words of vocabulary in order to comfortably talk
>     about the things that they want to talk about, or maybe a lot more,
>     and learning a couple of thousand words is HARD for most people.  No
>     simplification of grammar is going to eliminate that problem.
>
>     lojbab
>
>
> That is precisely my difficulties with Lojban. The grammar is easy as =F0=
,
> but I'm still learning the actual vocab. I'll admit to being somewhat
> lazy on the learning of it, but I'd say at this point I know ~1/4 of the
> gismu and cmavo, a smattering of non-jvajvo lujvo, maybe a couple
> fu'ivla, and a very few of the experimental words like zo'oi.

That was the point of the original LogFlash.  One of the few things that=20
JCB did that was actually scientific was to test flashcard algorithms,=20
and the original LogFlash encoded what he found to be the optimal one.=20
We eventually added some flexibility, but people turned away from the=20
tested algorithm in favor of all sorts of flashcard approaches.

But the original one really worked.  25 years on with little regular=20
usage for the last dozen years, and I still recall most of the gismu,=20
having drilled them up to >95% in less than 2 months.  (I never=20
completed the cmavo and rafsi to such a high degree, but the ones that I=20
did learn I didn't forget very quickly.)

Of course it is now a problem of converting the Turbo Pascal Dos program=20
into something more portable.  (Eric Raymond tried to convert the=20
program to portable C, but it never worked well.)

lojbab

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