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Subject: Re: [lojban] cmevla as a class of brivla
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On Friday, May 31, 2013 11:35:22 PM UTC+4, Latro wrote:
>
> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:04 PM, selpa'i <sel...@gmx.de <javascript:>>wrote:
>
>> That is why this ambiguity in gadri-less vocatives with brivla is not 
>> very popular (probably quite a minority view, in fact). To me, {COI/DOI 
>> broda} is always equivalent to {COI/DOI le broda}, and you have to use {la} 
>> explicitly to get {coi la broda}. There is just too big a difference 
>> between {la} and {lo/le} to have COI be ambiguous about it.
>>
>> mu'o mi'e la selpa'i
>
> While I have said recently that COI broda == COI le broda or COI la broda 
> depending on context, I would be completely fine with it being explicitly 
> defined as the former. However I will say that requiring this will not 
> prevent jokes--for example {coi le xalbo} when speaking to {la xalbo} is 
> often a reasonable description, which would make {coi xalbo} also a 
> reasonable greeting phrase.
>

di'u sounds like a step back to something like TLI Loglan that had not 
requirement to use {doi} (or whatever it was called)
Absolutely not connected things but of the same level of stupidity.


> mi'e la latro'a mu'o
>
>

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<br><br>On Friday, May 31, 2013 11:35:22 PM UTC+4, Latro wrote:<blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote">On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:04 PM, selpa'i <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto=3D"iTwqez1Fq6YJ"=
>sel...@gmx.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
That is why this ambiguity in gadri-less vocatives with brivla is not very =
popular (probably quite a minority view, in fact). To me, {COI/DOI broda} i=
s always equivalent to {COI/DOI le broda}, and you have to use {la} explici=
tly to get {coi la broda}. There is just too big a difference between {la} =
and {lo/le} to have COI be ambiguous about it.<br>

<br>
mu'o mi'e la selpa'i</blockquote><div>While I have said recently that COI b=
roda =3D=3D COI le broda or COI la broda depending on context, I would be c=
ompletely fine with it being explicitly defined as the former. However I wi=
ll say that requiring this will not prevent jokes--for example {coi le xalb=
o} when speaking to {la xalbo} is often a reasonable description, which wou=
ld make {coi xalbo} also a reasonable greeting phrase.<br></div></div></div=
></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>di'u sounds like a step back to som=
ething like TLI Loglan that had not requirement to use {doi} (or whatever i=
t was called)</div><div>Absolutely not connected things but of the same lev=
el of stupidity.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>
<br>mi'e la latro'a mu'o<br></div></div><br></div></div>
</blockquote>

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