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[212.227.17.20]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id o5si11456023eew.0.2013.05.31.17.16.07 for ; Fri, 31 May 2013 17:16:07 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.17.20 as permitted sender) client-ip=212.227.17.20; Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([10.1.76.27]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmx001) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0Ld2ys-1U0g6B2ElM-00iAlK for ; Sat, 01 Jun 2013 02:16:07 +0200 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 01 Jun 2013 00:16:07 -0000 Received: from p5DDC429E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.2.100]) [93.220.66.158] by mail.gmx.net (mp027) with SMTP; 01 Jun 2013 02:16:07 +0200 X-Authenticated: #54293076 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19XQEgaEp9XGNxfxHYXz9KBSd+jezEpaJ21GblaqT pNhyPnC3BzGNZN Message-ID: <51A93D46.4040200@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2013 02:16:06 +0200 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] A Short Story References: In-Reply-To: X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.17.20 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / la tsani cu cusku di'e > Hello everyone, I've just written a short story (~1000 words) in Lojban. Yay, more Lojban text! :) > Please tell me what you think! *SPOILERS* It's a nice read, indeed. The story takes a rather sudden, and ultimately sad turn, despite the easygoing introduction. My impressions, in bullet points, and uncensored: * The comma as a structure mark seems to be taking root in lo jbogu'e * I see you're using {je} to connect sumti, but still used {gi'e} in another place. You also use {.e} somewhere. Maybe a remnant of your recent adoption of the proposal. * Ah, {nonselkansa}. I see that you, like me, are reluctant to use {nonkansa} for "alone", despite its being shorter. {nonkansa} seems to just *scream* {kansa no da} (which even is a potentially useful meaning to have), so seeing {nonselkansa} here felt quite homey. * I'm still not a fan of {goi} in literary works, but style is style, so I won't complain. However, the assigned ko'a and ko'e only get used three times each, and close vicinity of the assignment. * I saw some {me X mei} that surprised me, and I'm not sure they are correct/intentional: {lo me lo vorme mei cu tavysi'u}, for one. (I'd welcome some more discussion in the me SUMTI mei thread, because I've got some more things to talk about, but I understand that you are busy). Also, for some reason, there is some weird beauty to {mei} in {me X mei} (although I couldn't make sense of it), but I might simply need some sleep. It's really just a visual thing with {mei}, .u'e * I like that you're taking more liberties (maybe because it's a literary work). The style is a bit more easygoing than your usual style. * It seems you are now on board with the na-scope. * Exclamation points! (in sai or cai sentences, could easily catch on) * You tend to place {.i} after {lu}. I tend to never do so. * The {be} maneuver to rearrange places doesn't cause trouble. (One of my recent posts on my blog seems relevant though, "the x2 rule") * {fi'o se casnu lo na'e te jimpe be fi lu'a lo mensi simxu} was amusing, in a good way. Obviously I wasn't amused by what happened after that. * Lots of _nicknames_ in the story (sorry, couldn't resist :P) * {lo vacri cu binxo lo ka se rirxe lo titla dukse ckafi} is beautiful. Okay, that's it. Time for some sleep! Thank you for sharing your story, mu'o mi'e la selpa'i -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.