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On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 2:42 AM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 31 May 2013 20:16, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de> wrote:
>
>>
>>
> * Ah, {nonselkansa}. I see that you, like me, are reluctant to use
>> {nonkansa} for "alone", despite its being shorter. {nonkansa} seems to just
>> *scream* {kansa no da} (which even is a potentially useful meaning to
>> have), so seeing {nonselkansa} here felt quite homey.
>>
>
> *Absolutely.* {nonkansa} just doesn't mean the right thing to me neither.
>

What distinction do you make between "kansa" and "selkansa"? I have always
thought of "kansa" as symmetric, and "nonkansa" <- "kansa be no da" = "with
no one". What does "nonkansa" mean to you?

I was a bit surprised by "nanmu nonkansa" though. I would have expected
"ninmu nonkansa" or "nonkansa ninmu" (if the intent was something like
"women alone")  or alternatively "nanmu claxu" ("without men"). But I
suppose with tanru anything is possible.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 2:42 AM, Jacob Errington <span dir=3D"ltr">&=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nictytan@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">nictytan@gmail.c=
om</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"im">On 31 May=
 2013 20:16, selpa&#39;i <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:seladwa@gm=
x.de" target=3D"_blank">seladwa@gmx.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"i=
m"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left=
:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">=A0<br></blockquote></div><div class=3D"i=
m"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left=
:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


* Ah, {nonselkansa}. I see that you, like me, are reluctant to use {nonkans=
a} for &quot;alone&quot;, despite its being shorter. {nonkansa} seems to ju=
st *scream* {kansa no da} (which even is a potentially useful meaning to ha=
ve), so seeing {nonselkansa} here felt quite homey.<br>


</blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>*Absolutely.* {nonkansa} just doesn&=
#39;t mean the right thing to me neither.</div></div></div></div></blockquo=
te><div><br></div><div style>What distinction do you make between &quot;kan=
sa&quot; and &quot;selkansa&quot;? I have always thought of &quot;kansa&quo=
t; as symmetric, and &quot;nonkansa&quot; &lt;- &quot;kansa be no da&quot; =
=3D &quot;with no one&quot;. What does &quot;nonkansa&quot; mean to you?</d=
iv>
<div style><br></div><div style>I was a bit surprised by &quot;nanmu nonkan=
sa&quot; though. I would have expected &quot;ninmu nonkansa&quot; or &quot;=
nonkansa ninmu&quot; (if the intent was something like &quot;women alone&qu=
ot;) =A0or alternatively &quot;nanmu claxu&quot; (&quot;without men&quot;).=
 But I suppose with tanru anything is possible.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes</div><div style><b=
r></div></div></div></div>

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