Received: from mail-qa0-f58.google.com ([209.85.216.58]:58479) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Uim2b-0002FY-PP for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sat, 01 Jun 2013 06:40:28 -0700 Received: by mail-qa0-f58.google.com with SMTP id j8sf590092qah.23 for ; Sat, 01 Jun 2013 06:40:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=rbvioi7laf7flRFZSjL1nDFpuTzaVKPzFjUQUT2NOc0=; b=iICegYUjv3d761+fXqIjN/YI7Xzu1SukhW2VDIyJY+nIjjQ+Wc2+gYmOJ3NvhMD9HA qPlPlzV6WeKcWhzuw/Xx5LjGqatokRWr46augdkNkgBSKjw+wK0ory+tBmpjnWvZRhvV dDD7lwZ3+sPW64lnPBWSA81HPNFLCexjKfl5uX021KZ3ac4n0itIPcA24oxMEpdZdJVe gYLM0tYYCTXCKoPA4peO/Y+VCnsc1CoazrvKT1VK2cLLvhVrf2iaVJbXxVULsAX9cG8d 4ZTqF2F76WWa1jSNR8q/wHFnhiyrCKRe4SxGlknKOw8oaLE+d03t2LczB6sX36LloKre WefA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=rbvioi7laf7flRFZSjL1nDFpuTzaVKPzFjUQUT2NOc0=; b=Wi9AM8x3d5IAmkD+/r+vaAmFvAo9N+IQXHK4b3ow03g4nn04iXfNiFVgIWPoFQ7LcY fAOS8erFZFhHCKA1cyP7o2zfov8An6TkIxWeQaSu1qq0GRdcZG+K9mDh9zEVmgaSntVq LTXbpAqDBiQqHBasjToh7R3CNiEZ2D46CpcVs1U3UTPKA+QSLmBmYror4wtElM6nEUgC a3t6dvRWoAkMGQoFaWGhxK22DttZ8Ex0gz+K5GfwBvYmrpMRPhDPl+ENwGzQiU+vdF38 qEW3ezF44gWX66Cfn96sshDAkGeagZlxyRxY6p+oaOIMnNVH5lQdCfp1783dhKe5x7Zc wMzw== X-Received: by 10.49.0.81 with SMTP id 17mr1240831qec.16.1370094011175; Sat, 01 Jun 2013 06:40:11 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.17.134 with SMTP id o6ls1322388qed.33.gmail; Sat, 01 Jun 2013 06:40:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.58.172.228 with SMTP id bf4mr5614041vec.9.1370094010170; Sat, 01 Jun 2013 06:40:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vb0-x231.google.com (mail-vb0-x231.google.com [2607:f8b0:400c:c02::231]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id xu10si5269143vdb.0.2013.06.01.06.40.10 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 01 Jun 2013 06:40:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c02::231 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400c:c02::231; Received: by mail-vb0-f49.google.com with SMTP id q13so1698062vbe.22 for ; Sat, 01 Jun 2013 06:40:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.248.39 with SMTP id yj7mr14207506vec.53.1370094010091; Sat, 01 Jun 2013 06:40:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.129.141 with HTTP; Sat, 1 Jun 2013 06:40:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 10:40:10 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] A Question about GIJA From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c02::231 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bdc8524c7cefb04de17de63 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --047d7bdc8524c7cefb04de17de63 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Jacob Errington wrote: > If we decide to refactor the connective system, could {gi mu'i} be made to > mean the same thing as the clunky {gi'e mu'i bo} (which under GIJA would be > {gi je mu'i bo} ? > No, because one of "ge (broda gi-mu'i brode) gi (mu'i brodi)" and "ge (broda) gi (mu'i brode gi-mu'i brodi)" would be inaccessible. > I can see this breaking the case where {broda gi'e mu'i brode}. However, > maybe if we throw in a {bo}, everything becomes okay? e.g. {.i broda > gimu'ibo brode}. I think this works, and doesn't break anything. > > Thoughts? > I think that one should work. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --047d7bdc8524c7cefb04de17de63 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Jacob Errington <<= a href=3D"mailto:nictytan@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:
If we decide to refactor th= e connective system, could {gi mu'i} be made to mean the same thing as = the clunky {gi'e mu'i bo} (which under GIJA would be {gi je mu'= i bo} ?


No, because one of &q= uot;ge (broda gi-mu'i brode) gi (mu'i brodi)" and "ge (br= oda) gi (mu'i brode gi-mu'i brodi)" would be inaccessible. =A0=
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I can see thi= s breaking the case where {broda gi'e mu'i brode}. However, maybe i= f we throw in a {bo}, everything becomes okay? e.g. {.i broda gimu'ibo = brode}. I think this works, and doesn't break anything.

Thoughts?

=A0I t= hink that one should work.=A0=A0

mu'o mi'e= xorxes

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