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la .xorxes. cu cusku di'e
> What distinction do you make between "kansa" and "selkansa"? I have
> always thought of "kansa" as symmetric, and "nonkansa" <- "kansa be no
> da" = "with no one". What does "nonkansa" mean to you?

I like to think of like this: the kansa2 does or is about to engage in 
some action, and the kansa1 joins/supports/goes along with the kansa1. 
While I do see how it could be used symmetrically, the asymmetric 
version could add more expressiveness to the word {kansa}.

lo pa moi cu cusku lu .ai mi jukpa lo vacysai li'u .i
lo re moi cu cusku lu .e'a pei mi do kansa li'u

"I'm going to cook dinner."
"May I join you?"

I'd gloss kansa as "mitmachen"/"begleiten" in German, which mean "to 
accompany, to go along with". And {kansi'u} would still give us a 
symmetric {kansa}.

By the above logic, {nonkansa} would mean "accompanying no one", "going 
along with no one", somewhat in the sense of "withholding support". I'm 
not sure what a concrete usage example could be though, but it feels 
like there should be a use for it. (if not, then the sel- could be 
scrapped from the lujvo). Maybe:

da'i mi kansa no da lo nu/ka klama lo kensa
"I wouldn't accompany anyone to outer space."

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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