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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 11:27:30 -0400
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On 6 June 2013 09:02, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Given my earlier remarks, I think my position has to be that {la .tsani.}
> has as much to do with the sky as "Smith" has to do with a forge, always
> allowing that a particular user may want to insist on more (as in the {la
> cribe} case often cited).  That is, {la .selpa'i.} is purely denotative and
> whatever semantics (or grammar, for that matter) {selpa'i} may have are
> simply not relevant.  Note, this does not make {selpa'i} a name when it
> stands alone, only when it is properly marked off, so as to be clearly
> distinct from the predicate {selpa'i}.
>
>
This is also my stance on selbri names.

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

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<div dir=3D"ltr">On 6 June 2013 09:02, John E Clifford <span dir=3D"ltr">&l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:kali9putra@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">kali9putra@yaho=
o.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote">

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-famil=
y:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><div><span>Given my earlier remarks=
, I think my position has to be that {la .tsani.} has as much to do with th=
e sky as &quot;Smith&quot; has to do with a forge, always allowing that a p=
articular user may want to insist on more (as in the {la cribe} case often =
cited).=A0 That is, {la .selpa&#39;i.} is purely denotative and whatever se=
mantics (or grammar, for that matter) {selpa&#39;i} may have are simply not=
 relevant.=A0 Note, this does not make {selpa&#39;i} a name when it stands =
alone, only when it is properly marked off, so as to be clearly distinct fr=
om the predicate {selpa&#39;i}.=A0 <br>

</span></div><div><br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div st=
yle>This is also my stance on selbri names.</div><div style><br></div><div =
style>.i mi&#39;e la tsani mu&#39;o=A0</div></div></div></div>

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