Received: from mail-vc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]:45185) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UkfQZ-00089w-Sb for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 12:01:17 -0700 Received: by mail-vc0-f189.google.com with SMTP id hz10sf909317vcb.16 for ; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 12:00:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=NzWjvb0STpl3duILEMXR0C0uvbutpA32OgOY6uYr9SI=; b=jMwVHEx89pP6vhXL9QGYUKInMPFacMBBa+nhbY/I2umM7nThESEGV0k5ZRWC/lrP/D FfrNikqycc2e/TLQqo6UVw2B9JmjPQ+BX2PqtjbeWJhlX8FN2s4qE/x43Ro5KVSQK4Ua sCbABnVckaRtpsyJo9EV+935Iohiyroab7+B4HhXuikw+TGgxqtPyHN9gZizNlRe+UlA Iicwp776pZ65IV8ir7jt/lEQdXFEeZC/ByvcsJKBa881eUd8h8/vAhEzanNPyVaDIvl3 wD8qXXd1hvjjcOtYRJebPMJHkpr98CQ9xarnnJGUFQ1iXdnetqvyJlAD2vXR4gYhsWQh LxQw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=NzWjvb0STpl3duILEMXR0C0uvbutpA32OgOY6uYr9SI=; b=nMwhQUnhdEnpiFkkp13J5xgneavGFzOPrczfdRcVFQlXezfT8UAHBw6UFbe0845cd0 JgRg7xMXehBq7p0/iCEn8yowDoH2gPn30mO5GnXQvjZle0Jd+Myck9+25VylrDmaSuat GIjgat6o0icVjGAaC+QYz2ZHz01GP/lYMOPrGRpi+YtmftC1OGsztj3dDkE1H89NMU10 lRVcsMoodnTw7f5m1QM8rSZ59r5Y27nepf8+mgxUSerrgbz9OszEjoE+ya/v+U1gpWU5 ufE6ukZj2zk5EX1wpmvi34P6YUw7S2MRxRoXn5gnfXdOQn8ZJw6Q+16iL+fI52F5g6ew 3gWg== X-Received: by 10.49.71.232 with SMTP id y8mr2981064qeu.19.1370545245275; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 12:00:45 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.0.179 with SMTP id 19ls1491062qef.53.gmail; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 12:00:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.52.29.108 with SMTP id j12mr9500463vdh.5.1370545244270; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 12:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vb0-x22d.google.com (mail-vb0-x22d.google.com [2607:f8b0:400c:c02::22d]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id xs5si392037vdb.3.2013.06.06.12.00.44 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 06 Jun 2013 12:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c02::22d as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400c:c02::22d; Received: by mail-vb0-f45.google.com with SMTP id p14so1216vbm.32 for ; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 12:00:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.52.89.73 with SMTP id bm9mr3318145vdb.99.1370545244106; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 12:00:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.115.68 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 12:00:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51B0CFD5.7050003@gmx.de> References: <20130606172922.GE29188@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <51B0CFD5.7050003@gmx.de> From: Alex Rozenshteyn Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 15:00:24 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Baby words: rash To: Lojban X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c02::22d as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f35706c7ca904de80eee9 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --20cf307f35706c7ca904de80eee9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 A "rash" need not be spots but does need to be a symptom. Taking Wikipedia as true, "A rash is a change of the skin which affects its color, appearance or texture." How about {pilbi'a} = p1 is the skin of p2=b1 afflicted by symptoms b2 as a result of disease b3? On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 2:07 PM, selpa'i wrote: > la .camgusmis. cu cusku di'e > > K has a bunch of itchy bumps on her stomach; this picture is fairly >> close >> http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.**com/media/photo-s/00/18/c3/73/** >> some-of-the-bug-bites.jpg >> , but there's more surrounding red (probably from scratching). >> >> I haven't the slightest idea what to call it. >> > > Chances are that there will eventually be multiple different lujvo (and > possibly some medical fu'ivla) for all the many different types of rashes > there are. As a starting point, how about something like: > > pilba'abi'a : > x1 bilma lo ka lo pilka be ce'u cu se barna kei x2 > > "x1 has the symptom that their skin has spots from disease x2" > > This would be a general term that works for any rash, but is still more > specific than just {barna}. > > For just "skin spots", there is {pilba'a}: "x1 are spots on x2's skin", > which probably has its uses, too. > > pei > > mu'o mi'e la selpa'i > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com > . > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/lojban?hl=en > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out > . > > > -- Alex R -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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A "rash" need not be spots but does need to= be a symptom. Taking Wikipedia as true, "A rash is a change of the sk= in which affects its color, appearance or texture."

How a= bout {pilbi'a} =3D p1 is the skin of p2=3Db1 afflicted by symptoms b2 a= s a result of disease b3?


On Thu,= Jun 6, 2013 at 2:07 PM, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de> wrote:
la .camgusmis. cu cusku di'e

K has a bunch of itchy bumps on her stomach; this picture is fairly
close
http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/00/18/c3/73/some-of-the-bug-bites.jpg
, but there's more surrounding red (probably from scratching).

I haven't the slightest idea what to call it.

Chances are that there will eventually be multiple different lujvo (and pos= sibly some medical fu'ivla) for all the many different types of rashes = there are. As a starting point, how about something like:

pilba'abi'a :
=A0 =A0 =A0x1 bilma lo ka lo pilka be ce'u cu se barna kei x2

"x1 has the symptom that their skin has spots from disease x2"
This would be a general term that works for any rash, but is still more spe= cific than just {barna}.

For just "skin spots", there is {pilba'a}: "x1 are spots= on x2's skin", which probably has its uses, too.

pei

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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