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On Sunday, June 9, 2013 2:36:10 PM UTC+4, v4hn wrote:
coi

On Sat, Jun 08, 2013 at 08:27:42PM -0700, la arxokuna wrote:
> Oh, i was inprecise a bit.
> 1. dot and apostrophe are letters in lojban so we have 25 lowercas= e letters.
> 2. There is a new trend to use capital letters instead of names of= letters=20
> (A,B instead of .abu, by.). So we have 23 capital letters.

There is such a trend? Well, at least now there is...
Still capitals have to be included anyway.

> 3. space

What do you need the space for?

????

To input= normal text in lojban of course. It's standard lojban. And space is a symb= ol.



> 4. optionally comma

The comma is offically part of the alphabet.
If you consider it optional then so are capitals
- however, you're not talking about standard lojban then.


v4hn,
who agrees that the only reasonable answer to this troll question
is "two" for binary or even "one" for unary coded text.

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