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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 15:15:38 -0300
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Subject: Re: [lojban] cmevla as a class of brivla
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On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder -
LLG <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:

> Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder -
>> LLG <lojbab@lojban.org <mailto:lojbab@lojban.org>> wrote:
>>
>
> But the argument that I was responding to seems to indicate that anything
> marked with "la" is just a string being treated as a name with no semanti=
c
> content in the same way that "zo" turns a string into a sumti with no
> semantic content.
>
>
That's basically what CLL says in Chapter 6 Section 2:

"The last descriptor of this section is =93la=94, which indicates that the
selbri which follows it has been dissociated from its normal meaning and is
being used as a name."

I'm also pretty sure your problem is not with that. You oppose the merge of
CMEVLA with BRIVLA because you oppose any changes to the language. It would
be better if you just said that instead of trying to come up with arguments
involving nicknmes or places of selbri, which are really not all that
relevant to the proposed merge.


> I know what dotside does, and was just making a joke about one extreme
> possibility of treating any old word-string as a name.


As you point out somewhere else, it is already possible: "la'o cmene la
cmene" is correct Lojban.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra">On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 2:24=
 PM, Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:lojbab@lojban.org" target=3D"_blank">lojbab@lojban.org</a>&g=
t;</span> wrote:<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204=
);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p=
adding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im">
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder -<br=
></div><div class=3D"im">
LLG &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lojbab@lojban.org" target=3D"_blank">lojbab@lojba=
n.org</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:lojbab@lojban.org" target=3D"_blank"=
>lojbab@lojban.org</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
</div></blockquote>
<br>But the argument that I was responding to seems to indicate that anythi=
ng marked with &quot;la&quot; is just a string being treated as a name with=
 no semantic content in the same way that &quot;zo&quot; turns a string int=
o a sumti with no semantic content.<br>

<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div style>That&#39;s basically what CLL sa=
ys in Chapter 6 Section 2:</div><div><br></div><div><span style=3D"color:rg=
b(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:medium;text-indent:16px">&quot;Th=
e last descriptor of this section is =93la=94, which indicates that the sel=
bri which follows it has been dissociated from its normal meaning and is be=
ing used as a name.&quot;</span><br>
</div><div><br></div><div style>I&#39;m also pretty sure your problem is no=
t with that. You oppose the merge of CMEVLA with BRIVLA because you oppose =
any changes to the language. It would be better if you just said that inste=
ad of trying to come up with arguments involving nicknmes or places of selb=
ri, which are really not all that relevant to the proposed merge.=A0</div>
<div style><br></div><div>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(20=
4,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
I know what dotside does, and was just making a joke about one extreme poss=
ibility of treating any old word-string as a name. =A0</blockquote><div><br=
></div><div style>As you point out somewhere else, it is already possible: =
&quot;la&#39;o cmene la cmene&quot; is correct Lojban.=A0</div>
<div>=A0</div><div style>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes</div></div></div></div>

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