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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 18:25:42 -0300
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On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 6:16 PM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>wrote:

>
> And the predicate here created means?  Presumably the composition rules
> still applies (if not, there is yet another problem) so, lacking any other
> information this means "is John-Paul" or "is John and Paul", though what
> {ui zei pi'o} means (and why we would want it) is beyond me.
>

As with any lujvo, the meaning would have to be looked up in the
dictionary. The form is available, but that doesn't mean it will be used.


My understanding of the cumulative effect of dotside is that every *name*
> must be surrounded by glottal stops
>

A common misunderstanding, but still a misunderstanding.


> (which otherwise do not except between final and initial vowels, i.e.,
> phonemically conditioned).  Thus, {.paris.rom.} is distinct from {. paris
> rom.}
>
> No, If there is no pause between "paris" and "rom" it must be written
"parisrom". If it is written "paris rom" then the pause between them is
obligatory, whether or not a dot is written.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra">On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 6:16=
 PM, John E Clifford <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kali9putra@yah=
oo.com" target=3D"_blank">kali9putra@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote">
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-famil=
y:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><br>And the predicate here created =
means?=A0 Presumably the composition rules still applies (if not, there is =
yet another problem) so, lacking any other information this means &quot;is =
John-Paul&quot; or &quot;is John and Paul&quot;, though what {ui zei pi&#39=
;o} means (and why we would want it) is beyond me.<br>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div style>As with any lujvo, the m=
eaning would have to be looked up in the dictionary. The form is available,=
 but that doesn&#39;t mean it will be used.</div><div style>=A0</div><div s=
tyle>
<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-size:12pt;=
font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif">My understanding of the c=
umulative effect of dotside is that every *name* must be surrounded by glot=
tal stops </div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>A common misunderstanding, but still=
 a misunderstanding.<br></div><div>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">=
<div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,ser=
if">(which otherwise do not except between final and initial vowels, i.e., =
phonemically conditioned).=A0 Thus, {.paris.rom.} is distinct from {. paris=
 rom.}<br>
<div><br></div></div></div></blockquote><div style>No, If there is no pause=
 between &quot;paris&quot; and &quot;rom&quot; it must be written &quot;par=
isrom&quot;. If it is written &quot;paris rom&quot; then the pause between =
them is obligatory, whether or not a dot is written.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes</div><div style>=
=A0</div></div></div></div>

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