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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: When pressed, that *is* what everyone ( except maybe Lojbab) says. The rest is ideological argle-bargle. Sent from my iPad On Jun 9, 2013, at 19:02, Betsemes wrote: [...] Content analysis details: (1.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: googlegroups.com] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (kali9putra[at]yahoo.com) 0.0 DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED No valid author signature, adsp_override is CUSTOM_MED -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD 'From' yahoo.com does not match 'Received' headers 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature When pressed, that *is* what everyone ( except maybe Lojbab) says. The res= t is ideological argle-bargle. Sent from my iPad On Jun 9, 2013, at 19:02, Betsemes wrote: > On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Jorge Llamb=EDas w= rote: >> I'm not sure what counts as grammatical fact here. Would you say that it= is >> a grammatical fact of Spanish that the name "Amado" has the form of a >> participle, or would you say it's just a philosophical explanation? >=20 > Not what I meant; but by further following the discussion, I see > there's different opinions on the matter, so I better leave it here > and continue following the discussion. To me it would be much easier > to say that {la} takes a word or words, be them cmevla, brivla, or > whatever as a string of sounds and make a name out of it. >=20 > mu'o mi'e betsemes >=20 > --=20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an= email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >=20 >=20 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. 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