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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 21:58:43 -0300
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Subject: Re: [lojban] cmevla as a class of brivla
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On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>wr=
ote:
>>
>> A cmevla is any Lojban word that ends in a consonant.
>>
>> Examples of (single) cmene that are not (single) cmevla are: "la'o gy
>> Starbucks gy", "la djan smit", "la selpa'i"
>>
>> It is useful to be able to distinguish the special word form "cmevla"
>> from the more general notion of cmene. These two concepts used to be
>> confused when cmevla were called cmene, since not all cmene have the for=
m
>> of cmevla.
>>
>> While I know what you meant, you made a basic mistake: named-things are
> not themselves names. {zoi gy Starbucks gy}, {lu djan smit}, and {zo
> selpa'i} are cmene that are not single cmevla.
>

I was talking about the expressions, not the things named by the
expressions, that's why they are in quotes. But you could argue that the
articles are not part of the name.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Ian Johnson <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:blindbravado@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">blindbravado@gmail.com=
</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra">=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"im">On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 5:20 PM=
, Jorge Llamb=EDas <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jjllambias@gmail=
.com" target=3D"_blank">jjllambias@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left:1ex">

<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div=
>A cmevla is any Lojban word that ends in a consonant.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Examples of (single) cmene that are not (single) cmevla=
 are: &quot;la&#39;o gy Starbucks gy&quot;, &quot;la djan smit&quot;, &quot=
;la selpa&#39;i&quot;</div><div><br></div><div>
It is useful to be able to distinguish the special word form &quot;cmevla&q=
uot; from the more general notion of cmene. These two concepts used to be c=
onfused when cmevla were called cmene, since not all cmene have the form of=
 cmevla.</div>

<div>
<div><br></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div>While I know=
 what you meant, you made a basic mistake: named-things are not themselves =
names. {zoi gy Starbucks gy}, {lu djan smit}, and {zo selpa&#39;i} are cmen=
e that are not single cmevla.<br>
</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div style>I was talkin=
g about the expressions, not the things named by the expressions, that&#39;=
s why they are in quotes. But you could argue that the articles are not par=
t of the name.=A0</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes</div><div style><b=
r></div></div></div></div>

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