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[66.94.236.23]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cj8si1192866igb.0.2013.06.10.08.06.13 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 10 Jun 2013 08:06:14 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 66.94.236.23 as permitted sender) client-ip=66.94.236.23; Received: from [66.94.237.193] by nm18.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2013 15:06:13 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.119] by tm4.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2013 15:06:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1024.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2013 15:06:13 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 510395.36735.bm@omp1024.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 16478 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jun 2013 15:06:13 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 31XiWn4VM1nZtkpY2QnXSeDhtjICl7YK4WD9aOeb21Xc1ud g59PCmNQ9sfpUIkegGHHC6mKgnn8iodZj9s3zz860gz1xmnXL0HSn83Rje9K ser2jLR8a0pQUw0aJ1krKX9nPtwrzvGnejr9aOi5GKraD7DB8F933YiKBf2B v62aXaGnapWe1HpBj6znKmFNfz4RVVFYMsKea_bjEJ7TyfKGsOuNmkmo9und Ez2F43anUeLBgURb90FfsgWYOay3SjH19dHx3EOEZsEF0szDRCC0Il8HIB1q mCuZsTXTyBzVq4su_ICl_DLIWcCYQpZDhvJ5hIq.nID5SPXFZylOSih_QaPW COXD_Z5Xh0dj0.tuG9h0qVzaWWH.Sh2kxoR9EmvYrOUra_iPMUjC02WzFfGg QN9uPDLp95oas82y1Z5zuF6QcA8Y8C5b.coLj425eHLwCkS5FA.i23EGuA94 pn1OthbVBsUEqcTiBcv_Be79m9TOGAmRCVOlEuuXBOPGLg2wbU6HKMcN.5Y1 SXmewc1qJnH9ljX2AmzEoMF3jMUE70JcWhTV9dxzBpZP.64JJ7WZeFrkoV6u 4SauufylrQebmQuDRhvg.3D6M_Rd7d1f._0rl457zvZ2cRIWAqmEB3kQzzhv YwvI4TZY.gM6SDokfl_UCVVJSrf4lyfH.vmg2Mpgxx3uNkzDag_Xqw7KzBEe 8JMZ9zIAZeZd67A7RtYAugxyjyPC60623YUSf2Ino5isRLkk6aQxXB7ISVhu uKgDhHJHRzpYYZdSjxQfj_Sqf Received: from [99.92.108.194] by web184403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 08:06:12 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,QW5kLG9mIGNvdXJzZSwgb3RoZXJzIG9mIHVzIHRoaW5rIHRoYXQgd2hhdCBuZWVkcyBkaXNjdXNzaW5nIGlzIGdyYW1tYXIsIHRvIGdldCBpdCByaWdodC7CoCBWb2NhYnVsYXJ5IGFyaXNlcyBhcyBpdCBpcyBuZWVkZWQgYnV0IHdlIGFyZSB3YXkgYWhlYWQgb2YgYW55IHVzZXMgaW4gdGhhdCBhcmVhLsKgIEhvdyB3ZSBwdXQgdGhhdCBzdHVmZiB0b2dldGhlciwgaG93ZXZlciwgaXMgd2hhdCBtYWtlcyBmb3IgYSBsb2dpY2FsIGxhbmd1YWdlLCBhbmQgdGhlcmUgdGhlcmUgYXJlIGFwcGFyZW50IGdhcHMgYW4BMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.146.552 References: <51A6685C.3010505@lojban.org> <1572136.Rc9a1FkyGG@caracal> <51B5AACD.8040106@gmx.de> <4765457.N8ok8LCe9x@caracal> Message-ID: <1370876772.5658.YahooMailNeo@web184403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 08:06:12 -0700 (PDT) From: John E Clifford Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] cmevla as a class of brivla To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" In-Reply-To: <4765457.N8ok8LCe9x@caracal> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 66.94.236.23 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass header.i=@yahoo.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-6906265-2010948478-1370876772=:5658" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ---6906265-2010948478-1370876772=:5658 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And,of course, others of us think that what needs discussing is grammar, to= get it right.=A0 Vocabulary arises as it is needed but we are way ahead of= any uses in that area.=A0 How we put that stuff together, however, is what= makes for a logical language, and there there are apparent gaps and incons= istencies. ________________________________ From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com=20 Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [lojban] cmevla as a class of brivla =20 On Monday, June 10, 2013 12:30:37 selpa'i wrote: > la .pier. cu cusku di'e >=20 > > I oppose this merge both before and after the baseline. >=20 > Please explain your reasons so that they can be considered and/or address= ed. I did already. There is no reason to even think of such a radical change. W= hat=20 we need to discuss is vocabulary, to make more of it. Pierre --=20 li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. 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And,of course, others= of us think that what needs discussing is grammar, to get it right.  = Vocabulary arises as it is needed but we are way ahead of any uses in that = area.  How we put that stuff together, however, is what makes for a lo= gical language, and there there are apparent gaps and inconsistencies.
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From: Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org&= gt;
To: lojban@googleg= roups.com
Sent: Monda= y, June 10, 2013 9:43 AM
Subject:= Re: [lojban] cmevla as a class of brivla

On Monday, June 10, 2013 12:30:37 selpa'i wrote:
> la .pier. cu cusku= di'e
>
> > I oppose this merge both before and after the b= aseline.
>
> Please explain your reasons so that they can be c= onsidered and/or addressed.

I did already. There is no reason to eve= n think of such a radical change. What
we need to discuss is vocabulary= , to make more of it.

Pierre
--
li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te= 'a mu du
li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci

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