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Use "la'e lu ko'a marji lo rectu li'u" instead. =A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:14 PM, lomicmenes wrote: coi > > >.i mi bacru tcidu la ko'a marji lo rectu fi'e la teris.bisyn. fi'o fanva f= e'u la pier.abat. >.i=A0le vreji > >.i xu lo mi selba'u cu drani > > >mu'o mi'e lomicmenes=A0--=20 >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups = "lojban" group. >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an = email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. >For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >=A0 >=A0 > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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la'o?

From: John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>
To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" &= lt;lojban@googlegroups.com>
S= ent: Monday, June 10, 2013 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [lojban] mi bacru tcidu la ko'a marji= lo rectu

Alas= , that gives a reference to Truth or Falsity, since the referent of the quo= ted sentence is a truth value.  It's not clear what was intended.
<= div>

From: Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.= com>
To: lojban@goog= legroups.com
Sent: Mon= day, June 10, 2013 9:32 AM
Subject= : Re: [lojban] mi bacru tcidu la ko'a marji lo rectu
=

lo nu galfi lu ko'a marji lo rect= u li'u lo cmene na cumki lo nu lidne jmina zo la .i do pu xusra lo du'u do =  tcidu da noi se cmene lu la ko'a marji li'u zi'e noi se ciska fi lo r= ectu zo'o .i ko pilno lu la'e lu  ko'a marji lo rectu li'u li'u f= i'o se basti ku

It's not possible to change "ko'a marji lo rectu"= to a name by simply prepending "la".  You asserted you were reading s= omething called "la ko'a marji" (His Material) 
which was written on meat! Use "la'e lu ko'a marji lo rectu= li'u" instead.

   = ;   --gejyspa



On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:14 PM,= lomicmenes <l= omicmenes@gmail.com> wrote:
coi

.i mi bacru tcidu la ko'a marji lo rectu fi'e la ter= is.bisyn. fi'o fanva fe'u la pier.abat.
.i xu lo mi selba'u cu drani

mu'o mi'e = lomicmenes 
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