Received: from mail-vb0-f56.google.com ([209.85.212.56]:50737) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UmQf0-0007fe-TP for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 08:39:09 -0700 Received: by mail-vb0-f56.google.com with SMTP id x14sf2401548vbb.11 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 08:38:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=YemFBxhNrB/xQaq9ri3KbvmovA1IrGi45vdjQHSqyHE=; b=eKgLl4a4N76vVsaLOAtP+9i0j3j7Yb53KEHtBY72fRmORpkCaUDgotnPRBj3quYKLZ Y2PZbZItJ0/ASzpw4DbP581X7JxJRW/W3jrFGeQShEQV+tAD7r2sc1F4l5pQDlf1UwME Die7dpPM/w7lW+iAvyvSnI6/N+9L583cgzjSzx6DE38SHfkO53RWoSPoT7inPEKIbwK4 4gWd6B+Xbg/0/T6hXFa6CWrW1MlTPvLBenPB+NDdyFuxtrc8pUZSkp/ML1xn2JSbsw1x n0das+XwtUJFr+vkVpazUvet2pPsToE0lN+LDcoghhDPvkKVWAcUlnArNUCpqh70364H cGEA== X-Received: by 10.49.85.234 with SMTP id k10mr805379qez.17.1370965130993; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 08:38:50 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.60.163 with SMTP id i3ls896870qer.49.gmail; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 08:38:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.236.138.20 with SMTP id z20mr8926308yhi.31.1370965130401; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 08:38:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chausie ([2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id k24si245358yhh.7.2013.06.11.08.38.50 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 08:38:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5; Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 516A91D290 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:38:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] break a cipher Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:38:48 -0400 Message-ID: <171376114.8TcKZ2qmUk@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-44-generic; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <3566404.c2LkBaIRe7@caracal> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:22:15 Michael Turniansky wrote: > selmifygau or tolmipri would be my entries. "selmifygau" means "decipher", which is not the same as "break". If you break a cipher, you find out what the plaintext or the key is without being told them, or you find out the key given the ciphertext and plaintext, or you find something about the cipher which makes it easier to find the key or plaintext without being told them. Pierre -- I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.