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{pofygau} is actually correct for one of the senses of "break" in
cryptography, e.g. in "MD5 is broken; use SHA2, since no one has yet found
a way to break it."

I second {termifyfa'i}.


On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:46 AM, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de> wrote:

> la .pier. cu cusku di'e
>
>  How would you say "break a cipher"? It's not "popygau" or "pofygau". Maybe
>> "tolnurgau"?
>>
>
> How about {[ter]mifyfa'i} ?
>
> x1 facki lo du'u ma kau te mifra x2 boi x3
> "x1 finds out by what coding system plain text x2 is/was turned into x3"
>
> I'm not sure there is a useful meaning for {mifyfa'i} without the {ter-},
> so I could see that rafsi getting dropped from the lujvo to make it shorter.
>
> mu'o mi'e la selpa'i
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>{pofygau} is actually correct for one of the senses o=
f &quot;break&quot; in cryptography, e.g. in &quot;MD5 is broken; use SHA2,=
 since no one has yet found a way to break it.&quot;<br><br></div>I second =
{termifyfa&#39;i}.<br>

</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue,=
 Jun 11, 2013 at 11:46 AM, selpa&#39;i <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:seladwa@gmx.de" target=3D"_blank">seladwa@gmx.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<=
br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left=
:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

la .pier. cu cusku di&#39;e<div class=3D"im"><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
How would you say &quot;break a cipher&quot;? It&#39;s not &quot;popygau&qu=
ot; or &quot;pofygau&quot;. Maybe<br>
&quot;tolnurgau&quot;?<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
How about {[ter]mifyfa&#39;i} ?<br>
<br>
x1 facki lo du&#39;u ma kau te mifra x2 boi x3<br>
&quot;x1 finds out by what coding system plain text x2 is/was turned into x=
3&quot;<br>
<br>
I&#39;m not sure there is a useful meaning for {mifyfa&#39;i} without the {=
ter-}, so I could see that rafsi getting dropped from the lujvo to make it =
shorter.<br>
<br>
mu&#39;o mi&#39;e la selpa&#39;i<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br=
>
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