Received: from mail-pd0-f183.google.com ([209.85.192.183]:36372) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UmSTq-00005H-A1 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:35:42 -0700 Received: by mail-pd0-f183.google.com with SMTP id q10sf950674pdj.20 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:35:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=imw+f+0Vb0yogyH5uGKj80RaVru44a+1/XjZK1t9ZYk=; b=CuoaXPvmZaDlVn/ige+ifryvfNMjiCYhPXpvs4u8f5fjhA7WPidVbTxu7yO+7KDvt0 qWtDhCKyIeZWoqnJUw0Xzdhf7KRlP5UlB1q4vwSXC26Osue0bZkAC8zNxqVw/F1yKYvn dMQoPIglTAQkSfBy4Rv70JqeUSkLCwTDAWgUsFdsKb6gt0E31LjIEaPhnS4kINOBryO9 leBpW3vezMC64fHQtYM3ek5WNEDLr9oMDYU4ZgJBDaS2JWXThC43ourOhX8+9+i4+TfY Xc9CIYUOaPHgRnmbOBwnE4CAFoJWH/bT6E252RvlfSBjqpiWvxoi3JC3haRGhJx5pXvU UrHw== X-Received: by 10.182.126.202 with SMTP id na10mr55274obb.35.1370972131992; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:35:31 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.97.4 with SMTP id dw4ls3406624qeb.58.gmail; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:35:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.236.185.4 with SMTP id t4mr2970335yhm.21.1370972131385; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:35:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chausie ([2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id o42si905986yhe.5.2013.06.11.10.35.31 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:35:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5; Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E40E72E1 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 13:35:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] break a cipher Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 13:35:28 -0400 Message-ID: <1732138.t0sNCqDtqN@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-44-generic; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <3566404.c2LkBaIRe7@caracal> <51B74672.3030304@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 13:05:07 .arpis. wrote: > {pofygau} is actually correct for one of the senses of "break" in > cryptography, e.g. in "MD5 is broken; use SHA2, since no one has yet found > a way to break it." OK, so what do we call a hash function? > I second {termifyfa'i}. Sounds good, for that sense. What is the word for "key" in cryptography? For "salt"? Pierre -- I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.