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On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:

> On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 13:05:07 .arpis. wrote:
> > {pofygau} is actually correct for one of the senses of "break" in
> > cryptography, e.g. in "MD5 is broken; use SHA2, since no one has yet
> found
> > a way to break it."
>
> OK, so what do we call a hash function?
>

{zilselfat zei mifra} (well, that's for the hash result; {te zilselfat zei
mifra} for the hash function)

{tolna'e zei mifra} for "checksum" and for "MAC", which is an unfortunate
conflation.

>
> > I second {termifyfa'i}.
>
> Sounds good, for that sense. What is the word for "key" in cryptography?
> For
> "salt"?
>

{selmipmifra} for (private) key, maybe {tolselmipmifra} for public key.

I'm not really sure for "salt"; you could make an argument for {mipmifra}
(thing that keeps the data hidden), but it would be a stretch.

Also, many of these are technical jargon and could be fu'ivla.

>
> Pierre
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Pierre Abbat <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:phma@bezitopo.org" target=3D"_blank">phma@bezitopo.org</a>&gt;</=
span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im">On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 =
13:05:07 .arpis. wrote:<br>
&gt; {pofygau} is actually correct for one of the senses of &quot;break&quo=
t; in<br>
&gt; cryptography, e.g. in &quot;MD5 is broken; use SHA2, since no one has =
yet found<br>
&gt; a way to break it.&quot;<br>
<br>
</div>OK, so what do we call a hash function?<br></blockquote><div><br></di=
v><div>{zilselfat zei mifra} (well, that&#39;s for the hash result; {te zil=
selfat zei mifra} for the hash function)<br><br></div><div>{tolna&#39;e zei=
 mifra} for &quot;checksum&quot; and for &quot;MAC&quot;, which is an unfor=
tunate conflation.<br>

</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-l=
eft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class=3D"im"><br>
&gt; I second {termifyfa&#39;i}.<br>
<br>
</div>Sounds good, for that sense. What is the word for &quot;key&quot; in =
cryptography? For<br>
&quot;salt&quot;?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>{selmipmifra} for (pr=
ivate) key, maybe {tolselmipmifra} for public key.<br><br></div><div>I&#39;=
m not really sure for &quot;salt&quot;; you could make an argument for {mip=
mifra} (thing that keeps the data hidden), but it would be a stretch.<br>

<br></div><div>Also, many of these are technical jargon and could be fu&#39=
;ivla.<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e=
x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class=3D"im HOEnZb"><br>
Pierre<br>
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