Received: from mail-yh0-f62.google.com ([209.85.213.62]:33650) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Un0n1-0005Ip-IB for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 23:13:50 -0700 Received: by mail-yh0-f62.google.com with SMTP id l109sf2835058yhq.27 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 23:13:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=X7mlb8Md7ja8i71KWZnPi/CmeGEow4/BuNNbAcqFOUU=; b=leEJbV0X8Tr6YX2G+TwWT1rtAFjVoVSrT1qVKPRn1lBcLwN4BsYwrn2eBciiK/DZOS +x9WB+N1MuV5vojtk+vNfdhkC9AR/sUhbZBbrJO3lQqBNmh+XUjsIL3mD4FNChvXhRYN yjNFOsr9OQSKUsJc0Kj1QmHIqUkkLRL24I1kfg7py+f9NjzidAcRBfpwuTDYrxMxVio4 TFeN+v3dKBemHaf/wWsorS7UkFpiTiuQ+9L5wH1K4mm1N0oYzzWKp/1Mjw4FRvC4AgYY d9Lv0U8ws4XH6GvKYLZ+QGENd6ty28zXZxsKtnGf9xMIfkHyKx7vUIoK2bhy6z8vzh5B CFqQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=X7mlb8Md7ja8i71KWZnPi/CmeGEow4/BuNNbAcqFOUU=; b=H2N7J6uNkEF1cwavlyK1kYgN3bx9ZHm/LHk0UgMmKGVSlDTsjP6qoJ5atM8QAxHMhD MQOYSonaixJVmohpUyDrOkjSp8pMLn1uf66rwx5O2XwGVPYvfnubSDcPPR6n3ZaeRKRP cQm6AjBZUNAv1+Xc5mBXE7cZ8G70CwoYg73NiEcjb0YJGyDlKCgNaKXQK5j+/gyt+6o9 OJ/BzN415jCu2ZIvUthUf5gy7LvHXxkJ5HMAHcNeT6dcYChMSFlPV0+fHlnFQ7NfYXi8 15uMJIOFL6ybieT68RcbMeI2HCV3Zkgkwy4ZJd+0NB9gM5UZLc/jXSw+cw2tGi+RZoB9 lHyQ== X-Received: by 10.49.16.163 with SMTP id h3mr585609qed.24.1371104016810; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 23:13:36 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.82.74 with SMTP id g10ls2684968qey.60.gmail; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 23:13:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.49.0.200 with SMTP id 8mr1270994qeg.38.1371104016395; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 23:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 23:13:35 -0700 (PDT) From: la arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <20130606172922.GE29188@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20130606230238.GF29188@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <3955222.YZl9T6rPvD@caracal> <20130607093225.GK29188@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Subject: Re: [lojban] Baby words: rash MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_232_3406347.1371104015962" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_232_3406347.1371104015962 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 9:29:58 PM UTC+4, gejyspa wrote: > > I agree with xorxes that skin irritations are definitely within the=20 > realm of cpina, the selcpina here being lo za'e kapterga'e (or whatever = we=20 > decide "sense of touch" > rather "sense of pain" =20 > might be). I have problems with rakcro, as not all itchiness is painful,= =20 > just annoying. rakyxlu? rakfanza? > it's ok. it's about how we feel such irritations. Objective symptom is inflammation. (replying to .pier. I can suggest simple Mandarin [zhen] which is directly= =20 lojbanised into {djeni}. {spije} doesnt remind me of Russian [syp'] at all)= . =20 > > --gejyspa > > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Jorge Llamb=EDas > > wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 6:32 AM, Robin Lee Powell < >> rlpo...@digitalkingdom.org > wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 07:56:13PM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote: >>> > On Thursday, June 06, 2013 20:19:50 Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: >>> > > "Itchy" is within the scope of "cpina". >>> > >>> > I say "rakcro" for "itch". >>> >>> +1 ; that doesn't seem very {cpina} to me at all. I don't try to >>> scratch my mouth when I eat hot peppers. >>> >> >> That's why I said "is within the scope of" and not "means the same as".= =20 >> Itchy things are cpina, but not all cpina are itchy. Itchy is just one k= ind=20 >> of cpina. >> =20 >> mu'o mi'e xorxes >> =20 >> >> --=20 >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s=20 >> "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a= n=20 >> email to lojban+un...@googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to loj...@googlegroups.com >> . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> =20 >> =20 >> > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 9:29:58 PM UTC+4, gejyspa wrote:
  I agree with = xorxes that skin irritations are definitely within the realm of cpina, the = selcpina here being lo za'e kapterga'e  (or whatever we decide "sense = of touch"

rather "sense of pain"

 
might be).  I have problems with rakcro, as not a= ll itchiness is painful, just annoying.  rakyxlu? rakfanza?

it's ok. it's about how we feel such irritation= s.

Objective symptom is inflammation.
(r= eplying to .pier. I can suggest simple Mandarin [zhen] which is directly lo= jbanised into {djeni}. {spije} doesnt remind me of Russian [syp'] at all).<= /div>

 

    --gejyspa


<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Jorge Llamb=EDas = <jjlla...@gmail.com> wrote:



On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 6:32 AM, Robin Lee Powell <rlpo...@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 07:56:13PM -040= 0, Pierre Abbat wrote:
> On Thursday, June 06, 2013 20:19:50 Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote:
> >  "Itchy" is within the scope of "cpina".
>
> I say "rakcro" for "itch".

+1 ; that doesn't seem very {cpina} to me at all.  I don't try t= o
scratch my mouth when I eat hot peppers.

That's why I said "is within the scope of" and not "means the same = as". Itchy things are cpina, but not all cpina are itchy. Itchy is just one= kind of cpina.

mu'o mi'e xorxes
 

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