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On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 3:44 AM, la arxokuna <= gleki.is.my= .name@gmail.com> wrote:

What is {xekri je mlatu}? One black cat = or two objects, one black and another one being a cat?
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Tanru logical connect= ives were never officially well defined. The usual take has always been tha= t "ko'a xekri je mlatu" expands to "ge ko'a xekri gi= ko'a mlatu", but the first problem already arises when you put so= mething in the x2 of "xekri je mlatu".

mu'o mi'e xorxes
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