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Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 09:04:59 -0400
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Translating "as"
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On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 8:24 AM, la arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Friday, June 14, 2013 3:56:38 PM UTC+4, gejyspa wrote:
>>
>> "xekri je mlatu" is not any amount of objects.  It's a selbri.  "lo xekri
>> je mlatu" is an object. "xekri je mlatu" is a description of  all objects
>> that are both black and cats.
>>
>
> Okay.
> 1. How would you describe one object that is black and white but at
> different time?
> 2. How would you describe two objects, one black and another one white?
>
>      Well, in the first case, I'd probably make that explicit with
relative phrases or tanru, but since we are dealing with the question of
conjunctions....
    That's what JOI are for.
    First the might use lo xekri ju'e blabi (jo'u might work as well, but
might imply either an  always white or  always black thing)
     For the second, the obvious choice lo xekri je lo blabi.
 --gejyspa

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 8:24 AM, la arxokuna <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.name@g=
mail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im">On Friday, June 14, 2013 3=
:56:38 PM UTC+4, gejyspa wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">&quot;xekri je mlatu&quot; is not any amount of objects. =
=A0It&#39;s a selbri. =A0&quot;lo xekri je mlatu&quot; is an object. &quot;=
xekri je mlatu&quot; is a description of =A0all objects that are both black=
 and cats.</div>
</blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Okay.=A0</div><div>1. How would you =
describe one object that is black and white but at different time?</div><di=
v>2. How would you describe two objects, one black and another one white?</=
div>
<div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-l=
eft:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><di=
v></div></div></blockquote></blockquote></div>=A0 =A0 =A0Well, in the first=
 case, I&#39;d probably make that explicit with relative phrases or tanru, =
but since we are dealing with the question of conjunctions....</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra">=A0 =A0 That&#39;s what JOI are for.</div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_extra" style>=A0 =A0 First the might use lo xekri ju&#39;e bl=
abi (jo&#39;u might work as well, but might imply either an =A0always white=
 or =A0always black thing)=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra" style>=A0 =A0 =A0For the second, the obvious cho=
ice lo xekri je lo blabi.=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra" style>=A0--gej=
yspa</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra" style><br></div></div>

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