Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 06:24:17 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: [lojban] "we" and masses. A bug in the CLL?
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On Sunday, June 16, 2013 5:04:08 PM UTC+4, Pierre Abbat wrote:
>
> On Saturday, June 15, 2013 22:11:01 la arxokuna wrote: 
> > However, jvs <http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/mi%27o> has two 
> definitions, 
> > the second one (by selpahi) defining  {mi'o} as "mi jo'u do" entered in 
> > December 2012. I don't remember any discussions of this issue at that 
> time. 
> > 
> > I don't know if  it should be  {ro mi'o bevri} vs. {lu'o mi'o bevri}  or 
> > {ro lu'a mi'o bevri} vs. {lu'o mi'o bevri}. 
> > 
> > So should we change the CLL to say it means {jo'u}, not {joi}? 
>
> Lojban lacks grammatical number, even in pronouns, but has clusivity. I 
> thought they were ambiguous as to whether they mean individuals or masses; 
> if 
> you want to specify, you can say "lu'o" or "lu'a". 
>

So I think we now all agree that we have to put this to the CLL Errata page.
 

>
> Pierre 
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> ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji 
>
>

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<br><br>On Sunday, June 16, 2013 5:04:08 PM UTC+4, Pierre Abbat wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">On Saturday, June 15, 2013 22:11:01 la arxokuna wrote:
<br>&gt; However, jvs &lt;<a href="http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/mi%27o" target="_blank">http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/<wbr>dict/mi%27o</a>&gt; has two definitions,
<br>&gt; the second one (by selpahi) defining &nbsp;{mi'o} as "mi jo'u do" entered in
<br>&gt; December 2012. I don't remember any discussions of this issue at that time.
<br>&gt; 
<br>&gt; I don't know if &nbsp;it should be &nbsp;{ro mi'o bevri} vs. {lu'o mi'o bevri} &nbsp;or
<br>&gt; {ro lu'a mi'o bevri} vs. {lu'o mi'o bevri}.
<br>&gt; 
<br>&gt; So should we change the CLL to say it means {jo'u}, not {joi}?
<br>
<br>Lojban lacks grammatical number, even in pronouns, but has clusivity. I 
<br>thought they were ambiguous as to whether they mean individuals or masses; if 
<br>you want to specify, you can say "lu'o" or "lu'a".
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>So I think we now all agree that we have to put this to the CLL Errata page.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>Pierre
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<br>ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji
<br>
<br></blockquote>

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