Received: from mail-vc0-f188.google.com ([209.85.220.188]:62048) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UoLC2-0003hj-IT for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 15:13:08 -0700 Received: by mail-vc0-f188.google.com with SMTP id ha12sf803000vcb.5 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 15:12:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=LOFU7F2OSoHo14oJAERVfSrj3OCZ3KqvaGWgs+HRwVg=; b=ptvO/+UYzwaI/inXeNjlFW15xJqGWVC8Qpz4OhLRTF+P+/1blccYWAZswz35pL0CuQ eAn9NLJFo6gKRnRWbd3lbhNRyMPcEyzGMcggcXKrIS/laiGtOXGFWVTuf5HgA5uGVWSy dkWw/sZeTQR2rlnHgIgD2neThoiynm47yYy6jtCA+iicntQGPK4uH5YDh0KAE2ZKxCaa V+pgxYwfdwGT0WR9F8eEI0dC5wCGflLgME5U7gtZ948XAE4M0PUJvCeiSRrnDvSKelBB t73DXzhXySEFS0WcfFIIdkK8UVqvx8/6sjN69V9CJxt9fnJBivmCcxvb9MHJ2Yre1vHa 2zRQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=LOFU7F2OSoHo14oJAERVfSrj3OCZ3KqvaGWgs+HRwVg=; b=tPSOqmO1PCsjG3jxS+55yMh4CXVglbqUQm8LTgrcDySXrlt7Oa0EGIQF+V6+c9CTKp feBswWoxUlmDTNtEIdUJgjrak9QY5+Ael8N/VZRlezHrPGQ9s3LE6IgQtc1OdutEx362 PPwkQXqoJsS0KRKu1yB6/83kZ4Yaf+U4YNXwTn00F4DtV+uoZNvi0blgfyAE+4atTqWp tjlq8Gu+H5fNXLv08qjZrYJt+mB1VOIkiAMy35utGU23Ba479pZ2ha/AJNgLC93U2bbb /Jb/SmMIZTdixam/YN4ddJ0tKlq40rN5+lT3jwU+rG7ri/6MP094fp3DwdAwUY95Gm0K jOyg== X-Received: by 10.50.9.40 with SMTP id w8mr306191iga.4.1371420775974; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 15:12:55 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.2.102 with SMTP id 6ls719223igt.36.canary; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 15:12:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.117.72 with SMTP id kc8mr7958896igb.0.1371420775595; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 15:12:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ie0-x235.google.com (mail-ie0-x235.google.com [2607:f8b0:4001:c03::235]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e3si1068254igy.0.2013.06.16.15.12.55 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 16 Jun 2013 15:12:55 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::235 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4001:c03::235; Received: by mail-ie0-f181.google.com with SMTP id x12so5438584ief.12 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 15:12:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.60.69 with SMTP id f5mr3634211igr.2.1371420775127; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 15:12:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.29.179 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 15:12:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51BDBA1D.80602@gmx.de> References: <8561d566-8f8b-4b46-9e7b-5fdbc1367b33@googlegroups.com> <51BDBA1D.80602@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 18:12:55 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] "we" and masses. A bug in the CLL? From: Ian Johnson To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::235 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b10d0e523a74304df4cc80d X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --047d7b10d0e523a74304df4cc80d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:14 AM, selpa'i wrote: > ro mi'o = mi .e do While I agree with this suggestion (as we already discussed on IRC), I disagree with this equation. Instead ro mi'o = ro mi .e ro do. If the 3 speakers together carry a piano and the 3 listeners together carry a piano then {mi .e do bevri lo pipno} is true while {ro mi'o bevri lo pipno} is false. mi'e la latro'a mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --047d7b10d0e523a74304df4cc80d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On S= un, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:14 AM, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de> wrote= :
ro mi'o =3D mi .e do
While I agree with this suggesti= on (as we already discussed on IRC), I disagree with this equation. Instead= ro mi'o =3D ro mi .e ro do. If the 3 speakers together carry a piano a= nd the 3 listeners together carry a piano then {mi .e do bevri lo pipno} is= true while {ro mi'o bevri lo pipno} is false.

mi'e la latro'a mu'o

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