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Subject: Re: [lojban] A bug in the CLL 7.6 example 6.14).
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On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:21 AM, la arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> On Monday, June 17, 2013 2:04:19 AM UTC+4, Latro wrote:
>>
>> Useful examples of {nei} are somewhat hard to produce. As selbri or even
>> seltau it is essentially useless, because the result is recursive; this is
>> the case for 6.14. Even as sumti it's not that common, in my experience, to
>> need {lo SE nei} and be unable to use both {vo'V} and {ri}, since this
>> means you need nesting and a nested bridi with > 2 sumti in it.
>>
>>
>
> vo'V is long scope
> in {mi djuno lodu'u do lumci vo'a} vo'a refers to {mi} and  {ri} wouldnt
> work at all.
>
My negation scope was ambiguous; it was intended to be a {na'ei} negation
with {.e} joined sumti, so that it's better phrased as "able to use neither
... nor ..."

mi'e la latro'a mu'o

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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:21 AM, la arxokuna <span dir=3D"=
ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gl=
eki.is.my.name@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra=
"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im"><br><br>On Monday, June 17=
, 2013 2:04:19 AM UTC+4, Latro wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Useful examples of {nei} are somewhat hard to produce. As =
selbri or even seltau it is essentially useless, because the result is recu=
rsive; this is the case for 6.14. Even as sumti it&#39;s not that common, i=
n my experience, to need {lo SE nei} and be unable to use both {vo&#39;V} a=
nd {ri}, since this means you need nesting and a nested bridi with &gt; 2 s=
umti in it.<br>

<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div>vo&#39;V is=
 long scope</div><div>in {mi djuno lodu&#39;u do lumci vo&#39;a} vo&#39;a r=
efers to {mi} and =A0{ri} wouldnt work at all.</div></blockquote><div style=
>
My negation scope was ambiguous; it was intended to be a {na&#39;ei} negati=
on with {.e} joined sumti, so that it&#39;s better phrased as &quot;able to=
 use neither ... nor ...&quot;</div><div style><br></div><div style>mi&#39;=
e la latro&#39;a mu&#39;o</div>
</div><br></div></div>

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