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If I want to say "I have a car. The car is white.": 1. with {le}: mi ponse le karce .i le karce cu blabi 2. with {lo}: mi ponse lo karce .i lo karce cu blabi I'm interested only in difference between {le} and {lo}. And I think the=20 first choice is better. Am I right? =D0=D1=D4=CE=C9=C3=C1, 21 =C9=C0=CE=D1 2013 =C7., 17:26:12 UTC+6 =D0=CF=CC= =D8=DA=CF=D7=C1=D4=C5=CC=D8 .arpis. =CE=C1=D0=C9=D3=C1=CC: > > {le} is what you say when you have a particular thing in mind or when you= =20 > want to indicate that the thing you're talking about isn't necessarily a= =20 > {broda}; {lo} is what you say whenever you don't want to indicate the=20 > previous fact. Most people use {le} for "the", but I think this is malgli= . > > > On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:29 AM, la arxokuna > > wrote: > >> mi'a got a request to explain the difference between {lo} and {le} with= =20 >> good examples from English. The person who is asking for that is not=20 >> satisfied with what is described in BPFK sections of lojban.org. Please= =20 >> help. >> >> --=20 >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s=20 >> "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a= n=20 >> email to lojban+un...@googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to loj...@googlegroups.com >> . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> =20 >> =20 >> > > > > --=20 > Alex R > =20 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ------=_Part_851_2442394.1371841853355 Content-Type: text/html; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! If I want to say "I have a car. The car is white.":
1. with {le}: mi= ponse le karce .i le karce cu blabi
2. with {lo}: mi ponse lo karce .i = lo karce cu blabi
I'm interested only in difference between {le} and {lo= }. And I think the first choice is better. Am I right?

=D0=D1=D4=CE= =C9=C3=C1, 21 =C9=C0=CE=D1 2013 =C7., 17:26:12 UTC+6 =D0=CF=CC=D8=DA= =CF=D7=C1=D4=C5=CC=D8 .arpis. =CE=C1=D0=C9=D3=C1=CC:
{le} is what you say when you have a= particular thing in mind or when you want to indicate that the thing you'r= e talking about isn't necessarily a {broda}; {lo} is what you say whenever = you don't want to indicate the previous fact. Most people use {le} for "the= ", but I think this is malgli.


On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:29 = AM, la arxokuna <gleki.is...@gmail.com> wrote:
mi'a got a request to explain the difference= between {lo} and {le} with good examples from English. The person who is a= sking for that is not satisfied with what is described in BPFK sections of = lojban.org. Please help= .

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