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Unless something vital gets confused,= the best policy seems to be to let each person use the one he is most comf= ortable with. Sent from my iPad On Jun 22, 2013, at 16:52, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 2:25 PM, John E. Clifford = wrote: >=20 > Potayto, potahto >=20 > More like potato, rutabaga. =20 >=20 > Sent from my iPad >=20 > On Jun 22, 2013, at 14:18, Jonathan Jones wrote: >=20 >> On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 7:06 AM, selpa'i wrote: >> {blabi} *is* a verb, as is every Lojban predicate. >>=20 >> Selbri are *not* verbs. >>=20 >> --=20 >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>=20 >> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o >> (Come to the Dot Side! 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At another time and place= we will have to discuss the problems with the interfaces between the termi= nologies of linguistics, logic, and Lojban.  They cover pretty much th= e same areas in pretty much the same way, but the details conflict in appea= rance, at least.  Unless something vital gets confused, the best polic= y seems to be to let each person use the one he is most comfortable with.
Sent from my iPad

On Jun 22, 2013, at 16:52, Jonathan J= ones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wro= te:

On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 2:25 PM, John E. Clifford <kali9putr= a@yahoo.com> wrote:

Potayto, potahto

More like potato, rutabaga. 

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 22, 2013, at 14:18, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 7:06 AM, selpa'i= <= seladwa@gmx.de> wrote:
 {blabi} *is* a verb, as is every Lojban predicate.

Selbri are *not* verbs.

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.i.= e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
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