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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Thanks, {la'u} "of some amount" does work better. Still uncomfortable about the construction, adding a place but not filling it, I would have thought adverbial tanru were more apprpriate. Sent from my iPad [...] Content analysis details: (1.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: gmx.de] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (kali9putra[at]yahoo.com) 0.0 DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED No valid author signature, adsp_override is CUSTOM_MED -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD 'From' yahoo.com does not match 'Received' headers 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature Thanks, {la'u} "of some amount" does work better. Still uncomfortable abou= t the construction, adding a place but not filling it, I would have thought= adverbial tanru were more apprpriate. Sent from my iPad On Jun 22, 2013, at 19:45, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Saturday, June 22, 2013 10:05:51 John E Clifford wrote: >> Not sure what {tai} does here, no NP after it. (I pass over {ci'omle}, >> you're entitle to make your compounds mean whatever you want them to.) >=20 > I think the correct preposition is "la'u", not "tai". "tai" is what I use= d in=20 > ".i ca'o le nu casnu tai kei", for "pendant qu'ainsi l'on d=E9lib=E8re". >=20 > On Saturday, June 22, 2013 13:18:01 Jonathan Jones wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 7:06 AM, selpa'i wrote: >>> {blabi} *is* a verb, as is every Lojban predicate. >>=20 >> Selbri are *not* verbs. >=20 > Cross-linguistically, verbs are words that take arguments (sumti). There = is=20 > not, as far as I know, any natlang which has an indefinitely long sequenc= e of=20 > numbered places, but all natlangs, as far as I know, and Lojban have word= s=20 > which take arguments, some of which can be tagged by an adposition. 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