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Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 14:18:40 +0200
From: v4hn <me@v4hn.de>
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Please, the best explanation of {le} vs. {lo}
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On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 03:21:50AM -0700, =D0=90=D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=
=BB=D0=B8=D0=B9 =D0=93=D0=B0=D1=88=D0=B5=D0=B2 wrote:
> I may call a woman with {lo nanmu} if I think the person is a man.
> You can ask about that almost anybody, especially la tsani or la selpa'i.=
=20
> And they can say am I right or not.

Yes, you can do that. Obviously. How else would you describe someone
who seems to be a man?

Nevertheless, you say something ba'e wrong then.
Using {le nanmu} (which in my opinion is better style anyway when you
have someone specific in mind) you do not, because you refer to
a specific individual no matter the description.


v4hn

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