Received: from mail-qc0-f184.google.com ([209.85.216.184]:61192) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UsAaZ-0001Lb-Ef for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 04:42:33 -0700 Received: by mail-qc0-f184.google.com with SMTP id b10sf211757qcw.1 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 04:42:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=BhCF4UGRKNXW7z/D7zMzA2nwakDz13+gQiJCG9QUMHA=; b=TpRIrXVpjeTOiXvNmpV3bKpW15GMjwyF/fwLPWsrjWtFoGFXN03+DOhRp7GWFN1AGN 4a5eEMeCgX/SITJbF+GH8Uq2+cf1NQ0EI/C3kaWxPfgSNWvsBXx3Pt4sA+RQn9nR2cqe haBSg5uw14TGJnBIb9qj/J4GYJP3f9F/cUSe93TtO7HikmcXUPkqf2Cm5uJEz4QwMonm H9yJ/G5uCce0+nVZHVXpLb8VM9zTUVOsiTKtcue0y5lRMXm5RiAQHchmUKV660fZP1zb cxHi5BeTCg0+7BTs2cG6SQiiHF/w8OE5erKncaXE+MsivMcnWJi09RV+e23fboXPoT8S wQcA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=BhCF4UGRKNXW7z/D7zMzA2nwakDz13+gQiJCG9QUMHA=; b=kDd0T+wOBJ+ay61vBhCmC+NjcSBsRyJ9ux+silOz9PlJn7FtjeZa+vG3CJfYltiE2z 32MIywfYZS7iO2s2e2Qb3hqGW9qKfkAEI8Fw1dvOs0199vMaG0QLtN3XDSvvU4sGPqGi KkZMGrwN5R6AISnPmyWUc+GcG1qkTEhdtkcSAFFNA0Mz6Wf0iKjtHjZuQO6Rua0zjs/n m7Q0bcBsYJvJJdwUnwxqnIcazfkMOxQLTnsOWykr131Jdt0nEKTi7PgHP+XrwvCMfsHT bOCvG1LnTr3eJdGWkSZojQbSiNQotgSTGPdSNcEDTq9O2GGyusSD5AL32U9b9zHQjAkA 100g== X-Received: by 10.49.64.136 with SMTP id o8mr200689qes.32.1372333324784; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 04:42:04 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.58.4 with SMTP id m4ls858389qeq.52.gmail; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 04:42:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.49.4.104 with SMTP id j8mr205080qej.40.1372333324361; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 04:42:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 04:42:03 -0700 (PDT) From: la arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <0c15949a-8011-4be4-b2e6-e69e878af02d@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <51CC2104.9030209@gmx.de> References: <8561d566-8f8b-4b46-9e7b-5fdbc1367b33@googlegroups.com> <51BDBA1D.80602@gmx.de> <51BE419F.4090806@gmx.de> <1371434761.19218.YahooMailNeo@web184405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51BEBACC.7090706@gmx.de> <1371471976.58028.YahooMailNeo@web184402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51CC134D.6080805@gmx.de> <51CC2104.9030209@gmx.de> Subject: Re: [lojban] "we" and masses. A bug in the CLL? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_242_32747738.1372333323900" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_242_32747738.1372333323900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thursday, June 27, 2013 3:24:52 PM UTC+4, selpa'i wrote: > > la gejyspa cu cusku di'e > > Of course it can mean both. The CLL version of "me [ko'a]" is > > equivalent to the ma'oste "me [ko'a] ro da". > > "among" is not the same as "specific to in everything". > > > So we just say that "me > > broda zo'e" is usually understood to mean just that. > > I don't know why one would want to keep the ma'oste meaning. It can be > expressed using other words (cf. ckini, moi, steci), but xorlo-{me} is a > core part of the language. > ma satci smuni da'i zo me xu'a ja fi'e do > mu'o mi'e la selpa'i > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ------=_Part_242_32747738.1372333323900 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Thursday, June 27, 2013 3:24:52 PM UTC+4, selpa'i wrote:
la gejyspa cu cusku di'e
> Of course it can mean both. The CLL version of "me [ko'a]" is
> equivalent to the ma'oste "me [ko'a] ro da".

"among" is not the same as "specific to in everything".

> So we just say that "me
> broda zo'e" is usually understood to mean just that.

I don't know why one would want to keep the ma'oste meaning. It can be
expressed using other words (cf. ckini, moi, steci), but xorlo-{me} is a
core part of the language.

ma satci smuni da'i zo me xu'a ja fi'e do


mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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