Received: from mail-ee0-f62.google.com ([74.125.83.62]:46177) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UsKyL-00056L-GT for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:47:42 -0700 Received: by mail-ee0-f62.google.com with SMTP id d49sf300557eek.17 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:47:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=YC7769saAUZOtPlc10yeT9yZ4H7j6q5WT5ayGWvXvqY=; b=Xc0eC6Nnyo/sa//a56R90ro5bwUpv3VdYbdwnlBA6lF+Npy0yWLhFsOfo30lRQ1TKb YaNBE1LpJ3NMe+aVyeQktR7YOvyqLvtOigcg0FcndoLFIjVmshamaUUSMYcIM0ScEug+ mAeAGaHJdISCp5+3gs2cw0UItwviUdo/sVGxZhGGTezpt2A52NbjN1rHySdJSagCNvAB irlCG/bnf/P/+ArnEkHnWNf37Mb4sj3BZeNYar6ndxqed2FGZ1Sub2pjcLrgqcqlVoXz DDumwafwBnILcYwSLtHBPpSw5/zRyww+FZXd6oumBPW45rJiNNRVcEPWTQw9zhPAtjko DGyg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=YC7769saAUZOtPlc10yeT9yZ4H7j6q5WT5ayGWvXvqY=; b=sZrd7Lcq1/uRmrxWCT8SERjl0CXP0lSSeDiLcqP/52qQAMPginluVKw3E0HCOz6/rz 3+c697RGCf9ovyhVPNR+7+bS8plbZQz3N5PLc78xO4Fk8TMP5AaeDBSdt1K6Ayr8O6ty 5odv5FY0Pl7SOZ4R14PFmYLIkrPJniluaxm68ZddlNyeBTCpKJPD7Zk1xcDPOalZNs2K EPRoaErIxIZ0ABs0yOFE1BphaygsNEOA3GfjLrUUICjI/Pp5r1p+YRKNHnmYllUxglb8 sz/GX/yKf+L72GvfLrZouVAe0/w/d3BGHDtz4oF7nSU+/rOaYeMkGb5QP/YtwaEW8J31 VNDg== X-Received: by 10.180.188.38 with SMTP id fx6mr33477wic.3.1372373238107; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:47:18 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.182.170 with SMTP id ef10ls49215wic.50.gmail; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:47:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.204.186.7 with SMTP id cq7mr396638bkb.3.1372373237484; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-la0-x22e.google.com (mail-la0-x22e.google.com [2a00:1450:4010:c03::22e]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id nl4si208900bkb.2.2013.06.27.15.47.17 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::22e as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c03::22e; Received: by mail-la0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id eg20so1462965lab.5 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:47:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.131.103 with SMTP id ol7mr5113419lbb.70.1372373237030; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.29.10 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:47:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51CCB932.1070308@gmail.com> References: <51CCB932.1070308@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 16:47:16 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Relative angular direction From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::22e as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3a86de4ae63404e02a8b88 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --047d7b3a86de4ae63404e02a8b88 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable {jganu} defines the angle by a point (x2) and a line (x3). In this picture: {la'o my.=E2=88=A0ACB.my jganu cy. lo linji be .abu ce by.} [image: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/images/eps-gif/Subtend_700.gif] I recommend using {radno } or { carna }. You can easily specify "1/8 turn", with {pifi'ubi carna} And so you know, the direction place in {carna} defaults to anti-clockwise, per the right-hand rule, and can be explicitly stated simply with {li ma'u} (acw} and {li ni'u} (cw), as on a polar coordinate grid. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Ilmen wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I was trying to figure out how to express relative angular direction in > Lojban, but I've been hindered by the unfathomable definition of {jganu}. > > I'd like to translate =C2=AB From me [vertex], there is a 1/8 leftwise tu= rn > angle between East and the mountain =C2=BB (note: a turn is a complete > revolution, otherwordly 360=C2=B0 or 2=CF=80 rad). > How can I say this in Lojban? > > Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated. > Best regards, Ilmen. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --047d7b3a86de4ae63404e02a8b88 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable {jganu} defines the angle by a point (x2) and a line (x3).

In this p= icture:
{la'o my.=E2=88=A0ACB.my jganu cy. lo linji be .abu ce by.}<= br>=C2=A03D"http://mathworld.wolfram.com/images/=
I recommend using {ra= dno} or {carna}. You can easily specify "1/8 turn", with {pifi'ubi carna}<= br>
And so you know, the direction place in {carna} defaults to anti-clockw= ise, per the right-hand rule, and can be explicitly stated simply with {li = ma'u} (acw} and {li ni'u} (cw), as on a polar coordinate grid.

On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Ilmen <ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com> wrote:
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Hello everybody,

I was trying to figure out how to express relative angular direction in Lojban, but I've been hindered by the unfathomable definition of {jganu}.

I'd like to translate =C2=AB From me [vertex], there is a 1/8 lef= twise turn angle between East and the mountain =C2=BB (note: a turn is a complete revolution, otherwordly 360=C2=B0 or 2=CF=80 rad).
How can I say this in Lojban?

Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated.
Best regards, Ilmen.

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