Received: from mail-ee0-f57.google.com ([74.125.83.57]:47039) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UsL4o-00057q-Lg for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:54:14 -0700 Received: by mail-ee0-f57.google.com with SMTP id t10sf300553eei.2 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:53:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=KznzAFk5+bInMbzZtiWpM1oKGAbPGrj9hq0Azcc3v20=; b=ieDtSTYDD8I7ArzVxvoUNkKmW8khu2T5AY9UldnxApufqQTO+Bxxxz8XM+rblS2uAR gzKgdaU9KTq6EjvRUhPq+rAjPA4lqCqwVbCK6FixlktDEIUMR2c5gebVFzwUki47ePkP i5yD0jQCtRIVf26bbh2lKdywb0iXsLNFjD/IR/lvUtT1LkZexfJFyQCZdAjgo6fDyH5a G2M1vcWc+1FQQhq6jEF/Garftev9kBkpL5M/v4yS05M6Yqs/ABLDhrh+9VvRanPh1JxF dAOlaVqeW5rhGc8TEWjRMOhE1D0nYrGKMDmOPf+h8eB96uwOi+W0Vq+WtF2POHqgIT5P vUEQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=KznzAFk5+bInMbzZtiWpM1oKGAbPGrj9hq0Azcc3v20=; b=S3cLYPa2D5HsQdseklunFJ2uA+UN3jM3+HWNpl7ZFt94efuGdE3aDy1CLTnQYPEyM8 aEpXsKpoGA5nZSWhSTt9fVXCfSHk1C/ASGcH5Ysv5h+4V/eqL9DZ4/Vi1F+cfmZBxep9 RiC10EW8E2opIRE5CL+wiw8yPKaM1qX6U5Gfns70FmxTzYWUDmQwEa2hEM49EyUs6BtP 0Iw0PyMOPu/l2Fn0TTlu+QwgJFzkXstoXkpMruaWAVRn94rODfoMc1cxOpbHWRKMl9fX zHM26iBhCY9MVCby7ok7lfZt+VkvAckSObxzF9f21nE6OBPnnzqCE5CKNG6d7YjuVDai b9Ew== X-Received: by 10.181.13.84 with SMTP id ew20mr31883wid.11.1372373639384; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:53:59 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.181.13.197 with SMTP id fa5ls48406wid.26.canary; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:53:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.204.230.12 with SMTP id jk12mr396160bkb.8.1372373638934; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:53:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-la0-x22b.google.com (mail-la0-x22b.google.com [2a00:1450:4010:c03::22b]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id nl4si209619bkb.2.2013.06.27.15.53.58 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:53:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::22b as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c03::22b; Received: by mail-la0-f43.google.com with SMTP id gw10so1462302lab.2 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:53:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.5.97 with SMTP id r1mr5145447lbr.76.1372373638575; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:53:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.29.10 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:53:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <51CCB932.1070308@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 16:53:58 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Relative angular direction From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::22b as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae94ee03339fb3004e02aa307 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --14dae94ee03339fb3004e02aa307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > {jganu} defines the angle by a point (x2) and a line (x3). > > In this picture: > {la'o my.=E2=88=A0ACB.my jganu cy. lo linji be .abu ce by.} > [image: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/images/eps-gif/Subtend_700.gif] > I recommend using {radno } or = { > carna }. You can easily > specify "1/8 turn", with {pifi'ubi carna} > or {carna fo li pifi'ubi}, also. > > And so you know, the direction place in {carna} defaults to > anti-clockwise, per the right-hand rule, and can be explicitly stated > simply with {li ma'u} (acw} and {li ni'u} (cw), as on a polar coordinate > grid. > > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Ilmen wrote: > >> Hello everybody, >> >> I was trying to figure out how to express relative angular direction in >> Lojban, but I've been hindered by the unfathomable definition of {jganu}= . >> >> I'd like to translate =C2=AB From me [vertex], there is a 1/8 leftwise t= urn >> angle between East and the mountain =C2=BB (note: a turn is a complete >> revolution, otherwordly 360=C2=B0 or 2=CF=80 rad). >> How can I say this in Lojban? >> >> Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated. >> Best regards, Ilmen. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a= n >> email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --14dae94ee03339fb3004e02aa307 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Jonatha= n Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
{jganu} defines the angle by a point (x2) and a line (x3).

In this p= icture:
{la'o my.=E2=88=A0ACB.my jganu cy. lo linji be .abu ce by.}<= br>=C2=A03D"http://mathworld.wolfram.com/images/eps-gif/Subtend_70==
I recommend using {radno} or {carna}. You can easily specify "1/8 tu= rn", with {pifi'ubi carna}

or {carna fo li pifi'ubi}, also.

And so you know, the direction place in {carna} defaults to anti-clockw= ise, per the right-hand rule, and can be explicitly stated simply with {li = ma'u} (acw} and {li ni'u} (cw), as on a polar coordinate grid.


On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Ilmen <ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com> wrote:
=20 =20 =20
Hello everybody,

I was trying to figure out how to express relative angular direction in Lojban, but I've been hindered by the unfathomable definition of {jganu}.

I'd like to translate =C2=AB From me [vertex], there is a 1/8 lef= twise turn angle between East and the mountain =C2=BB (note: a turn is a complete revolution, otherwordly 360=C2=B0 or 2=CF=80 rad).
How can I say this in Lojban?

Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated.
Best regards, Ilmen.


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