Received: from mail-qa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]:53181) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UsR43-0006bh-ER for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 22:17:54 -0700 Received: by mail-qa0-f61.google.com with SMTP id u10sf132579qaz.6 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 22:17:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=AEzjcJZHCmPZnSByXFRxZ2KHPcdpJIwa/uN6BhSZt6w=; b=fgTTsJZtgYPG+aUjCGRGOOQq5O0MneVGBS8sJgUuQ+i9HAsLfV0RmjzzgLNnP1oFvJ eEmYofxb27fskGns5HVzZJeeMmczFGGdmpPx8PBRvNCj9YCCwJwADBOV5MIW7oQALvRi w2sXNhBkwF9uVmEIIDA8peFCscEmKtasSOayp37CXNamEbqeMH4K2kJAqCll64eDzo1H DFYbinWn3PYiqzQv+vXxeJJzmkyAAvKH1bcS3WnwEbtch/aW3MIvhMar+oYNNdB5Ic0t GzAzbSI5c4DnDoaNM2B6cInYJnEAVfN+sFuuTXwd+l658R5em+PkLLtJkrHFlHdW1KjM SMSg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=AEzjcJZHCmPZnSByXFRxZ2KHPcdpJIwa/uN6BhSZt6w=; b=A8kq0H5xM128fjOkVLCZXSY60ZWC9zTtQuTEr2B/X56aqCyWw+55tUDRcjNbYBpYo7 cn1ftdT5daRUWrurIXuZ3Rb9Nfyz3epO7aMw0UzcmVzUgn4XGDfrClrAUWYvseAjJ4zm NkqJvJCT2rn5yqJJZkWFfHKnZI+6rm8/4S9eHQ3eRwwYZmenq+D6tE3aNodlj5NccZj3 25r+77Gg0DGhdZmmbH/N0OwBvzgfFWVLycV2+b6wQ7Qh1a4mSINdAQtZ4IzHwbbPdhre 7tfs8syuXtUD7rPsY3yU7zEgAp/vXT4HRK9+04h9ziQzfPq+Yfx0ljNMq0gtDwOIWOeb Gbcg== X-Received: by 10.182.219.202 with SMTP id pq10mr34626obc.10.1372396655514; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 22:17:35 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.29.170 with SMTP id l10ls180033obh.66.gmail; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 22:17:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.96.133 with SMTP id ds5mr33336obb.32.1372396653893; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 22:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 22:17:33 -0700 (PDT) From: la arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <51CCB932.1070308@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Relative angular direction MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_300_17749068.1372396653413" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_300_17749068.1372396653413 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Friday, June 28, 2013 2:47:16 AM UTC+4, aionys wrote: > > {jganu} defines the angle by a point (x2) and a line (x3). > > In this picture: > {la'o my.=E2=88=A0ACB.my jganu cy. lo linji be .abu ce by.} > [image: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/images/eps-gif/Subtend_700.gif] > I recommend using {radno } or = { > carna }. You can easily=20 > specify "1/8 turn", with {pifi'ubi carna} > > And so you know, the direction place in {carna} defaults to=20 > anti-clockwise, per the right-hand rule, what in the official and/or robin's definition of carna says about=20 right-hand rule? =20 > and can be explicitly stated simply with {li ma'u} (acw} and {li ni'u}=20 > (cw), as on a polar coordinate grid. > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Ilmen = >wrote: > >> Hello everybody, >> >> I was trying to figure out how to express relative angular direction in= =20 >> Lojban, but I've been hindered by the unfathomable definition of {jganu}= . >> >> I'd like to translate =C2=AB From me [vertex], there is a 1/8 leftwise t= urn=20 >> angle between East and the mountain =C2=BB (note: a turn is a complete= =20 >> revolution, otherwordly 360=C2=B0 or 2=CF=80 rad). >> How can I say this in Lojban? >> >> Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated. >> Best regards, Ilmen. >> >> >> --=20 >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s=20 >> "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a= n=20 >> email to lojban+un...@googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to loj...@googlegroups.com >> . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> =20 >> =20 >> > > > > --=20 > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! 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On Friday, June 28, 2013 2:47:16 AM UTC+4, aionys wrote:{jganu} defines the angle by a point (x2)= and a line (x3).

In this picture:
{la'o my.=E2=88=A0ACB.my jganu= cy. lo linji be .abu ce by.}
 3D"http://mathworld.wolfram=
I recommend using {radno} or {carna}. You can easily specify "1/8 turn", = with {pifi'ubi carna}

And so you know, the direction place in {carna} defaults to anti-clockw= ise, per the right-hand rule,

what in the o= fficial and/or robin's definition of carna says about right-hand rule?
 
and can be = explicitly stated simply with {li ma'u} (acw} and {li ni'u} (cw), as on a p= olar coordinate grid.

On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Ilmen <ilmen....@gmail.com> wrote:
=20 =20 =20
Hello everybody,

I was trying to figure out how to express relative angular direction in Lojban, but I've been hindered by the unfathomable definition of {jganu}.

I'd like to translate =C2=AB From me [vertex], there is a 1/8 leftwis= e turn angle between East and the mountain =C2=BB (note: a turn is a complete revolution, otherwordly 360=C2=B0 or 2=CF=80 rad).
How can I say this in Lojban?

Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated.
Best regards, Ilmen.

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