Received: from mail-pa0-f57.google.com ([209.85.220.57]:32921) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UwJMH-0003ch-6r for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 14:52:46 -0700 Received: by mail-pa0-f57.google.com with SMTP id lf11sf1541954pab.2 for ; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 14:52:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=hUpTGmq4l310rkL0KPKlYdeKtePFLsTrAcYTuH9miGI=; b=EltA3qOW3p6va7ThHZSAIcq6MdxMaznRs+quCpQikAkbt2eamkUTmt5LMuOLp8X7sj NnAGxJiHoIhE7rS3ptJH85SMOk7meBXCJxVHuTuNJ0jjg8WiJXsMCEPmPg+i73Wk5yUy 0dBlYRnwt6yHGD+tyRnd85eVbY0djrcpnmw1x7R6IewkGX6NSYQeEEiiS8WZNE4mAvXO BGtexSNhs3xTV3gCbvenwNHC5WYeYefR9ue7V+4JitWRTEurl5SH+n4hKYvTwYuoyX/g TpT2J8bFWXAQXC2BbBHUWZTrO14gu2h5pPGOZUTeQVixd3UJYDRMivqNNNbXCvkc1WHo JcwQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=hUpTGmq4l310rkL0KPKlYdeKtePFLsTrAcYTuH9miGI=; b=nOjY4hmY6PrQp6yF3g81tksSpUcMzz6HJD3bUO9RTAlvFOYj7LjjYVC8LSehs19p3I 07xHxx7Iv3S03tCdes/6C7TBKspjuPsSR2bvIUJb+s5qvdmsCPrvWvIB1jTrngu81ogj Xvwi83rj9eIF2VDw81351Ij/322M3e8YkqL91b/QuYQyKsle0fP0A8TVh5bLqdDeZ5/I YRkG0S/+mQVz6CNt2QJfN6k3SA3+meLYNNYIoIe/STDA9Gt6REeIAamHYxTuoINdxejo FtIL/DvCzVDc+v6ztnD/pe7H6r/UHN5Mdzp3rZzfSCls1GKIiiskYu8GSnWTeBuMe6WU aFQw== X-Received: by 10.49.71.173 with SMTP id w13mr620386qeu.21.1373320346613; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 14:52:26 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.97.195 with SMTP id ec3ls1923683qeb.13.gmail; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 14:52:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.49.40.167 with SMTP id y7mr619350qek.36.1373320345615; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 14:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 14:52:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Feilen Haksan To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: Subject: [lojban] Making a jbo locale file and package for installation, need some suggestions. MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: feilen1000@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9563_32541798.1373320345296" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_9563_32541798.1373320345296 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've decided to scrape together a Lojban localization file, to match the one used and distributed for Esperanto, to make it so that open source software that takes advantage of locales can easily be translated. However I've run into a couple things that I think would be best to consult on first. Here's a (mostly comments) version of what I have so far: http://pastebin.com/WX3mTMeZ Anything with %% is to point out something specific. *Date/Time:* Monday-Friday can use the planetary Lojban equivalents, or the numerical equivalents. Which would be preferable? Each month has a lujvo and cmene equivalent, again, which would be best? What do we want for 3-letter abbreviations? What date format do we use, or do we just inherit it from somewhere else? *Numbers:* * * There's no way I can make it output digits as letters, unfortunately. I can control decimal points, thousands seperators, and a couple of others. Should we leave them as-is? On currency, do we have a symbol we wish to use? Would it make sense to use EUR? Do we want +/-, just -, or even {ma'u|ni'u}? *LC_MESSAGES:* * * Only really one thing here, what letters are yes, what letters are no? *Phone/address:* * * Does it really need any change, and if so, where? Most of what's in the file above is still what it was when I got it, almost everything has multiple ways to go about doing them, many more regional than language influenced. In 2010 David Gowers made a simple Lojban locale which pulled most of its information from en_AU (and in fact that's pretty much all we need!) but making a definitive jbo package to match the Esperanto one would probably be more beneficial overall. Also he mentioned an Arch package. Unfortunately he hasn't been around the list for a while :< Any/all suggestions are welcome! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ------=_Part_9563_32541798.1373320345296 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've decided to scrape together a Lojban localization file, to match the on= e used and distributed for Esperanto, to make it so that open source softwa= re that takes advantage of locales can easily be translated.

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However I've run into a couple things that I think would be best to co= nsult on first. Here's a (mostly comments) version of what I have so far:


Anything with %% is to poin= t out something specific.

Date/Time:
<= div>
Monday-Friday can use the planetary Lojban equivale= nts, or the numerical equivalents. Which would be preferable?

Each month has a lujvo and cmene equivalent, again, w= hich would be best?

What do we want for 3-letter a= bbreviations?

What date format do we use, or do we= just inherit it from somewhere else?

Numbers:<= /i>

There's no way I can make it output dig= its as letters, unfortunately. I can control decimal points, thousands sepe= rators, and a couple of others. Should we leave them as-is?

<= /div>
On currency, do we have a symbol we wish to use? Would it make se= nse to use EUR? Do we want +/-, just -, or even {ma'u|ni'u}?

=
LC_MESSAGES:

Only really = one thing here, what letters are yes, what letters are no?

Phone/address:

Does it real= ly need any change, and if so, where?



Most of what's in the file above is still what it was whe= n I got it, almost everything has multiple ways to go about doing them, man= y more regional than language influenced.

In 2010 = David Gowers made a simple Lojban locale which pulled most of its informati= on from en_AU (and in fact that's pretty much all we need!) but making a de= finitive jbo package to match the Esperanto one would probably be more bene= ficial overall.

Also he mentioned an Arch package.= Unfortunately he hasn't been around the list for a while :<  

Any/all suggestions are welcome!

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