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Well, with numbers you have to solve the question of which day is number on=
e.=A0 Not to mention the issue of what relgious tradition to follow with al=
l of these (and having weeks at all, for that matter).=A0=20


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 From: Feilen Haksan <feilen1000@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com=20
Sent: Monday, July 8, 2013 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Making a jbo locale file and package for installa=
tion, need some suggestions.
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Hmm. Well, it seems that there's some community disagreement. Gregorian cal=
endar and color- or material-based names isn't, well, culturally neutral, w=
hich Lojban is supposed to be. There's already some standardization that ti=
es days to numbers, but there's also some that use planets. I'm leaning for=
 numbers. Does anyone else have a weigh-in?


On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Feilen Haksan <feilen1000@gmail.com> wrote:

Pierre,
>
>
>Thank you very much for your detailed response. I've adjusted as follows:=
=A0http://pastebin.com/yb3EyzWR
>
>
>Left currency symbol as EUR.=A0
>Decimal point is a [.], as it's likely computing will be a first point on =
lojbanists' priorities.
>Added days using the color system, which seems more systematic than the al=
ternative.=A0
>Short date format is fine.
>LC_MESSAGES now accepts 'j' or 'n'
>Paper... paper? Paper.
>Titles removed from names.
>Packaging script that comes with Arch Esperanto package (and most other Es=
peranto references) have been converted. It will install as "jbo UTF-8" in =
/etc/locale.gen, and you can enable it as the default language by setting t=
he LOCALE field of your /etc/locale.conf to "jbo.utf8" once it's finished.
>
>
>What's left:
>Should we even have a thousands seperator?
>{crino} still undecided for abbreviation.
>I couldn't find a list of fu'ivla-ized Gregorian calendar months, if you c=
ould list names that would work fine.
>Date format has to include (to be consistent with the current one): Day of=
 week, day of month, month abbr, year, 24-hr time, timezone.=A0
>Remainder of name information needs to be finalized, should we use {la}?
>
>Filling out and unicode-paging fields when it's finalized.
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">Well, with numbers yo=
u have to solve the question of which day is number one.&nbsp; Not to menti=
on the issue of what relgious tradition to follow with all of these (and ha=
ving weeks at all, for that matter).&nbsp; <br><div><span><br></span></div>=
<div><br></div>  <div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, time=
s, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, ne=
w york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <hr size=3D"1"> =
 <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From=
:</span></b> Feilen Haksan &lt;feilen1000@gmail.com&gt;<br> <b><span style=
=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> lojban@googlegroups.com <br> <b><spa=
n style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, July 8, 2013 9:03 P=
M<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [lojban=
] Re: Making a
 jbo locale file and package for installation, need some suggestions.<br> <=
/font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><br>
<div id=3D"yiv1340123733"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hmm. Well, it seems that there's=
 some community disagreement. Gregorian calendar and color- or material-bas=
ed names isn't, well, culturally neutral, which Lojban is supposed to be. T=
here's already some standardization that ties days to numbers, but there's =
also some that use planets. I'm leaning for numbers. Does anyone else have =
a weigh-in?</div>
<div class=3D"yiv1340123733gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"yiv1340123733=
gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Feilen Haksan <span dir=3D"ltr=
">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:feilen1000@gmail.com" target=3D=
"_blank" href=3D"mailto:feilen1000@gmail.com">feilen1000@gmail.com</a>&gt;<=
/span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"yiv1340123733gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Pierre,<div><br></div><div>Tha=
nk you very much for your detailed response. I've adjusted as follows:&nbsp=
;http://pastebin.com/yb3EyzWR</div>
<div><br></div><div>Left currency symbol as EUR.&nbsp;</div><div>Decimal po=
int is a [.], as it's likely computing will be a first point on lojbanists'=
 priorities.</div><div>Added days using the color system, which seems more =
systematic than the alternative.&nbsp;</div>
<div>Short date format is fine.</div><div>LC_MESSAGES now accepts 'j' or 'n=
'</div><div>Paper... paper? Paper.</div><div>Titles removed from names.</di=
v><div>Packaging script that comes with Arch Esperanto package (and most ot=
her Esperanto references) have been converted. It will install as "jbo UTF-=
8" in /etc/locale.gen, and you can enable it as the default language by set=
ting the LOCALE field of your /etc/locale.conf to "jbo.utf8" once it's fini=
shed.</div>
<div><br></div><div><i>What's left:</i></div><div>Should we even have a tho=
usands seperator?</div><div>{crino} still undecided for abbreviation.</div>=
<div>I couldn't find a list of fu'ivla-ized Gregorian calendar months, if y=
ou could list names that would work fine.</div>
<div>Date format has to include (to be consistent with the current one): Da=
y of week, day of month, month abbr, year, 24-hr time, timezone.&nbsp;</div=
><div>Remainder of name information needs to be finalized, should we use {l=
a}?<br>
</div><div>Filling out and unicode-paging fields when it's finalized.</div>=
<div class=3D"yiv1340123733HOEnZb"><div class=3D"yiv1340123733h5">


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