Received: from mail-vb0-f56.google.com ([209.85.212.56]:36960) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UwOIJ-0005ka-2t for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 20:08:58 -0700 Received: by mail-vb0-f56.google.com with SMTP id x14sf1558853vbb.11 for ; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 20:08:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=3dM18xiwKmsfp9S+jyRs3dDncW/fSX9NyHDVoRZqmKU=; b=H5jq11o3vRaAdRtmL5aYTlRs3bk0XD23tStkXiEE2WPqdRg2TaA7eZ7wkyM4PdniVv +BKL7/5YY1hT1tZRCsvmvZYa9FGQ3t9dYJiavaTKMNitdzcKv1Ds/lX5VRGbhvQOygh2 aSLmUbgJN1F9QTVmNwAkAlIOy+onVOtDvgiJiFRCuavylBsC294fJpjcM5dvKSvARzNq WXNQYWysCVxX0UFcHOzHedBP3GNSKyp9ZEcH/La8hmzxUmzq1gnniyat6woxc6hWe+wl 83m8E2DS5AsUtjKOfDPowv4MnZvofYIW01dEpZbMIRNoyxecv8EE4W1/V86IN4mkXTbb iJaQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=3dM18xiwKmsfp9S+jyRs3dDncW/fSX9NyHDVoRZqmKU=; b=ir0BUYSmhyk/6u9YlaQw2g1kI7fltEJZg8TZV44v4Sql7jV5+5BzVOiEuxvtPb0bra IxBF9PnakyFUvJ12+W7BenWtrI8z4KOLZdBb4ecSuqK/Fy+PTnNdFR+uN0t000V+XAr3 Ip5znan+jer8jHhQhduWWcusbJYRyJsfRiP3CxEwjBtdWIQeeU4rePGnLwKIpeithnAC c3rAbPpyv+KXyQ/baUL/C7NzUJM4lmxd6bMjr57IJbJvjz12Hk0rZpjS5EJqtld0aOHm 5O3FZPTxEjqa8RGT8AlF8RTGVKmJUPjpVskS5WONWDSeQYU7/vMyPpE2n7fBGBGATTna xmcw== X-Received: by 10.49.25.36 with SMTP id z4mr639059qef.6.1373339320702; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 20:08:40 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.95.138 with SMTP id dk10ls2110599qeb.4.gmail; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 20:08:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.58.168.167 with SMTP id zx7mr2872771veb.22.1373339319759; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 20:08:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ve0-x235.google.com (mail-ve0-x235.google.com [2607:f8b0:400c:c01::235]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l7si1758978vdd.1.2013.07.08.20.08.39 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 08 Jul 2013 20:08:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c01::235 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400c:c01::235; Received: by mail-ve0-x235.google.com with SMTP id db10so4111513veb.26 for ; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 20:08:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.220.109.139 with SMTP id j11mr15232989vcp.54.1373339319639; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 20:08:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.59.7.65 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 20:08:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130709024026.GB4227@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> References: <20130708172215.GA4227@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20130709024026.GB4227@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> From: Luke Bergen Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 23:08:19 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Baby words: "more". To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" , "lojban-list@lojban.org" X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c01::235 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3a85224da5ee04e10b7a01 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --047d7b3a85224da5ee04e10b7a01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It's almost certainly malgli due to me learning the gismu from rough english equivalents but I've found myself using {zmadu} (more) in some similar cases. {xu do djica lo zmadu cidja} where {zmadu cidja} => (cidja poi zmadu lo pu cidja lo ni xokau) On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Robin Lee Powell < rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > That is a *great* workaround, thank you. > > I'd still like a reasonable way to say "more", though. za'u is > *greater than 1* by default, so, no, I disagree that it means that > as the language is currently specified. > > -Robin > On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 01:32:27PM -0400, Luke Bergen wrote: > > Or {rau}. xu do citka rau lo cidja > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Michael Turniansky < > mturniansky@gmail.com>wrote: > > > > > I'd say seljmina in those constructions, but... yeah. > > > > > > Didn't we already have this discussion? > > > > > > za'u is available for vague quantifier use, too > > > > > > --gejyspa > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Robin Lee Powell < > > > rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> As in "Do you want more food?", or, for the baby to say "more food". > > >> > > >> {jmina} is the closest I've seen, but it's a pain in the ass for > > >> that sort of purpose; the places are wrong. > > >> > > >> -Robin > > >> > > >> -- > > >> http://intelligence.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic > future. > > >> .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e > > >> lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e > > >> lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu > sofybakni > > >> li'u > > >> > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > >> "lojban" group. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send an > > >> email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "lojban" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > > > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "lojban" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > -- > http://intelligence.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e > lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e > lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni > li'u > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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It's almost certainly malgli due to me learning the gi= smu from rough english equivalents but I've found myself using {zmadu} = (more) in some similar cases. =A0{xu do djica lo zmadu cidja} where {zmadu = cidja} =3D> (cidja poi zmadu lo pu cidja lo ni xokau)


On Mon, Jul 8= , 2013 at 10:40 PM, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.or= g> wrote:
That is a *great* workaround, thank you.

I'd still like a reasonable way to say "more", though. =A0za&= #39;u is
*greater than 1* by default, so, no, I disagree that it means that
as the language is currently specified.

-Robin
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 01:32:27PM -0400, Luke Berg= en wrote:
> Or {rau}. =A0xu do citka rau lo cidja
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>wr= ote:
>
> > I'd say seljmina in those constructions, but... yeah.
> >
> > Didn't we already have this discussion?
> >
> > za'u is available for vague quantifier use, too
> >
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Robin Lee Powell <
> > = rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> As in "Do you want more food?", or, for the baby to= say "more food".
> >>
> >> {jmina} is the closest I've seen, but it's a pain in = the ass for
> >> that sort of purpose; the places are wrong.
> >>
> >> -Robin
> >>
> >> --
> >> http:/= /intelligence.org/ : =A0Our last, best hope for a fantastic future.
> >> .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go&#= 39;i li'u .e
> >> lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'= i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e
> >> lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'= u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni
> >> li'u
> >>
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.i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u = .e
lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e = lu go'i na'i li'u .e
lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mam= ta be do cu sofybakni li'u

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