Received: from mail-pb0-f59.google.com ([209.85.160.59]:40791) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UwYOb-0002tt-ME for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 06:56:13 -0700 Received: by mail-pb0-f59.google.com with SMTP id rq2sf1737569pbb.14 for ; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 06:55:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=f42rX2d6ChUnoy8LFQcrCMJALzt1YwrigNQC1/bcIgk=; b=nx/68xs5hVhd7eq3fT0r6AObY+m8i2Lv+FumVtPQrg/4DXC6X51UhTRZfV09Wpx9nI BzwPZhRYJjqALihQM3DA/OK/I9JuupHfPVF67uz2HEfqv/zDe5TdeVXCnNX3DVMZCN2v +16ev90OmLMrVE8Ni6//nDyGBl+RLlWzNEKfYki///4kNvLiz1FNrKxnGiw4P4pWQhIY U87o6KAAeORfeexpfwxK2eYujsrB62T/95Fxsbg/yITAIMqzhNiO2psL5PlAQeybYe9g mLcHgsndPs2AY+L81sX697maKNXLoacLzYPFprU4dI1VRiEaEe5Ysm/3mDt2WaUTvWvb 4nZg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=f42rX2d6ChUnoy8LFQcrCMJALzt1YwrigNQC1/bcIgk=; b=I8Am68626OA/0mtJkWnh0kQz30Ls7OcWYODYVwHRhClVRS3ll27CSNrS4c7J3YiFpo qgxhmuZHclx5tZOKENEF+iBDKJ4MYhr0DTWPxka8PukWh5NE0VCWPVgPgSjh2vMKH8yJ tFdn56iGwIVC7R71y5ZWXtqsCzcuicVaPTthB6jzFDS8WvPAS+DZNEE00lgJL4aAoopW 7lrUQ7trq4170sLVLTtNPz6AWanxgTpq6K0M0PhiyQ1ZX7Gw3lh0GD9IHm9z3UEeRptH GNdOryT2dTdY9q1HroQrNu/KptIlHQ6KFnZodL8UGFX1Zmy3FMj2IQyJ3iv0FC/YRd+I 2/iQ== X-Received: by 10.49.40.167 with SMTP id y7mr745992qek.36.1373378150948; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 06:55:50 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.14.71 with SMTP id n7ls2380678qec.2.gmail; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 06:55:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.59.5.72 with SMTP id ck8mr3449644ved.35.1373378150565; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 06:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vb0-x236.google.com (mail-vb0-x236.google.com [2607:f8b0:400c:c02::236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g10si1878291vdv.3.2013.07.09.06.55.50 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Jul 2013 06:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c02::236 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400c:c02::236; Received: by mail-vb0-f54.google.com with SMTP id q12so4462837vbe.13 for ; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 06:55:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.65.10 with SMTP id t10mr13798627vds.90.1373378150490; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 06:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.21.67 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 06:55:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1bba0d87-c794-4bb3-b005-8a26057522bb@googlegroups.com> <2085654.k0LDEImA0k@caracal> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 10:55:50 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Making a jbo locale file and package for installation, need some suggestions. From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c02::236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3071cdf8cd6aad04e1148407 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --20cf3071cdf8cd6aad04e1148407 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 12:44 AM, Feilen Haksan wrote: > I'm afraid the consensus from IRC is on purely numerical calendar names. > The only problem there is in 3-letter abbreviations, both months and days, > and how to distinguish them. That's one of the problems, but I wouldn't say it's the only one. If Lojban had gismu for "x1 is the x2-th day of the week", "x1 is the x2-th day of the month" and "x1 is x2 days in duration", then the numeric system to name the days of the week might work. As it is, we only have a gismu for the third of those relations, and the most obvious meaning for "cibdei" is "x1 is three days in duration", so the convention that makes it mean "Wednesday" relies on more or less ignoring the meaning of "djedi". In this system,presumably "reljeftu" would not be used for "fortnight", but for "week 2 (of the month?)". "xavyma'i" is not "semester" but "June". Presumably "dekna'a" can still be "decade", whereas "pavnonyna'a" would be "the year 10"? mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 12:44 AM, Feilen Haksan &l= t;feilen1000@gmai= l.com> wrote:
I'm afraid the consensus from IRC is on = purely numerical calendar names. The only problem there is in 3-letter abbr= eviations, both months and days, and how to distinguish them.

That's one of the problems, but I wouldn'= t say it's the only one. If Lojban had gismu for "x1 is the x2-th = day of the week", "x1 is the x2-th day of the month" and &qu= ot;x1 is x2 days in duration", then the numeric system to name the day= s of the week might work. As it is, we only have a gismu for the third of t= hose relations, and the most obvious meaning for "cibdei" is &quo= t;x1 is three days in duration", so the convention that makes it mean = "Wednesday" relies on more or less ignoring the meaning of "= djedi". In this system,presumably "reljeftu" would not be us= ed for "fortnight", but for "week 2 (of the month?)". &= quot;xavyma'i" is not "semester" but "June". P= resumably "dekna'a" can still be "decade", whereas = "pavnonyna'a" would be "the year 10"?

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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