Received: from mail-pd0-f188.google.com ([209.85.192.188]:33128) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UwaYv-0004Oa-KG for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 09:14:55 -0700 Received: by mail-pd0-f188.google.com with SMTP id w16sf1748093pde.5 for ; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 09:14:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to :mime-version:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=uCY1f3pASWgfq5OP3r6GEviMDKvjJnVqRbdaf+77WYY=; b=as3X9BJesiYZiR7nnjiXfBPA3ul7esdg0c0ychKh1/EPbKs2YkfRCH1z9tNHhqCvvf gisrI2xyZmkUtbM6wolcRV6AiSF0z7mox3RKkq4sWTOaz6rQVaJR1Nm2gUZ+R+a7NLHS aBM3orsvpamk3eAhXkniDB8eN7Hh1ZgS6DCmtXsKFichOkdDuKs6YKRPihLu04EZLwGP ZTfYGReG+ChhJfPHY0DYkuInWC7jjKLhy/eyaIhzIKSQ5YZiIkkKI2UCcwF7Zlm0BV3W e291DnBMotqytpOCt9fAhULd0QY8wMrLNOFtAyOnilbUrgRoym3knZiLhAsKeSfz/y8r Kdsw== X-Received: by 10.50.79.193 with SMTP id l1mr660046igx.14.1373386479009; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 09:14:39 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.164.231 with SMTP id yt7ls5648122igb.7.canary; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 09:14:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.66.230.229 with SMTP id tb5mr2442055pac.43.1373386478460; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 09:14:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id sb8si3377376pac.2.2013.07.09.09.14.38 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Jul 2013 09:14:38 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UwaYn-0004OP-AE for lojban@googlegroups.com; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 09:14:37 -0700 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:14:37 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: [lojban] Someone please explain {xrani} to me. Message-ID: <20130709161436.GF4227@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / The x3 and x4 don't make any sense to me. xrani = x1 (event) injures/harms/damages victim x2 in property x3 (ka) resulting in injury x4 (state). Can someone please tell me how to comment on my daughter's scraped knee in a way that fills all 4 places? Because I think the x3 is BS and should be dropped. -Robin -- http://intelligence.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni li'u -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.