Received: from mail-vb0-f55.google.com ([209.85.212.55]:54623) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Uwb3w-0004l0-21 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 09:47:02 -0700 Received: by mail-vb0-f55.google.com with SMTP id i3sf1846866vbh.10 for ; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 09:46:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=QarXg77rMZAOdfpIpTZ6LN0IOwyZOF+L616d3c0sOgI=; b=heW+rlOCZCumxre2CQ7n3ruqpHXK8+SovGoch+BNl5eiZvn8PyOTq5peUkXxrJiSMp OPs0kmwX6aLJVo3zRHYJ88A6EfH3PtHngmUZfQlSQp73DXrKnIkE8gb/zKXc6VaTIFrZ j6kZ3ipiPBWND95ICsQewCG8MTBP1sRf49Ry8ouxH6nktqbT04nFrtaBXKaSWYITCR66 rvh6u7D/Ppgqb3Tam5CIpS/EW4HtRFy0umKtKeX7jxuVWo2ldLghVyW7yScMgViiPazU imFMVRNO8Qw0e+/kSbRbbuFoMTyAn2WMVjOP5S3pCzd71e49flLnKt8+i4t+qap5Dqtf VwEw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=QarXg77rMZAOdfpIpTZ6LN0IOwyZOF+L616d3c0sOgI=; b=QTsR1l4jqxUsGjmjGFIJAl6dH0KZw2uULKMRlavH2DuNMPoByYQlKruND9Iu/kpkv6 X0AOQ7rAo1NmczvzsWpi7JHHBlaNUOjhuqjwvZe/DSDJmj27gmHuiLLQCu/6kqDCOmGr 8Fq4p6fLiprf75F8uwktZkYcuNBR7J8fcJAoD7+xHCcdixub8I24Or6IPAHZKwyJPIkY YQd95SlGEvpnzveQYbJQiNDpOKRVEcDJucTg4PiUqSVrv/AmnlAqkr2Mokn4nLcDz2hK dqrr42yaPXrz9yvsvbZ9osOLFvF9T7DDtelZSGbKlvjlj8CIOe9/zx1w2raIzQOAeGeN 7vPQ== X-Received: by 10.50.106.50 with SMTP id gr18mr2496973igb.1.1373388401516; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 09:46:41 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.106.16 with SMTP id gq16ls1720675igb.1.canary; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 09:46:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.42.89.83 with SMTP id f19mr19249439icm.23.1373388401213; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 09:46:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oa0-x235.google.com (mail-oa0-x235.google.com [2607:f8b0:4003:c02::235]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j3si5379580igx.3.2013.07.09.09.46.41 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Jul 2013 09:46:41 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c02::235 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4003:c02::235; Received: by mail-oa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id k14so8155705oag.40 for ; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 09:46:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.71.38 with SMTP id r6mr24497735obu.64.1373388400935; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 09:46:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.4.165 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:46:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20130709161436.GF4227@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:46:40 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Someone please explain {xrani} to me. From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c02::235 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb1f56cc6cbba04e116e7a8 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --e89a8fb1f56cc6cbba04e116e7a8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've always assumed that it was like gismu like "djuno"= -- that is, in most circumstances, you are likely to fill either x3 or x4, but not both. --gejyspa On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Frank wrote: > > > On Tuesday, July 9, 2013, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > >> >> The x3 and x4 don't make any sense to me. >> >> xrani = x1 (event) injures/harms/damages victim x2 in property x3 (ka) >> resulting in injury x4 (state). >> >> Can someone please tell me how to comment on my daughter's scraped >> knee in a way that fills all 4 places? Because I think the x3 is BS >> and should be dropped. >> > > Just so We're on the same page, so to speak, why do You think it's "BS"? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. 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=A0I've always assumed that it was like gismu like &qu= ot;djuno"=3D -- that is, in most circumstances, you are likely to fill= either x3 or x4, but not both.
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O= n Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Frank <frankdmartinez@gmail.com= > wrote:


On Tuesday, July 9= , 2013, Robin Lee Powell wrote:

The x3 and x4 don't make any sense to me.

xrani =3D x1 (event) injures/harms/damages victim x2 in property x3 (ka) re= sulting in injury x4 (state).

Can someone please tell me how to comment on my daughter's scraped
knee in a way that fills all 4 places? =A0Because I think the x3 is BS
and should be dropped.

Just so We're on the same page, = so to speak, why do You think it's "BS"?=A0

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