Received: from mail-vc0-f190.google.com ([209.85.220.190]:55075) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UwbhM-0005Ho-U8 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 10:27:37 -0700 Received: by mail-vc0-f190.google.com with SMTP id ib11sf1832931vcb.27 for ; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 10:27:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=N44r7yMd3OIa2U00ObEG1ggeoxC6oyVsIvzyoVzeV0s=; b=XednER473D7ux2Qr6SEJDTcEzg2xIH8c3hpmTslUPjmngAgLErchdtTGrUku3fYko8 xs65PctfbsJP2NItf2lmVufJGAcVKK+1McmUzimfl26xlzNmIwZiDRMJLlgO5z4d7DJ4 POnPEdtOxM192x6V3kiTWBcV/kHAGe0NmuntaoiyM8aplttli4s22o12+wl6hHs3XZQc dBVtThLg5uU9CfJikdmzxKqIP85xBQoX7Q/ijfwaty4tuFaftB6fgUnrvioVFlUnlYXD MKoQjQl+Di7ZGg83UK1qT65Du9GJpV94OVKJA2cyD9lw4dU2TFiFaQ3Ob9DrLVCy3Hfi N3fA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=N44r7yMd3OIa2U00ObEG1ggeoxC6oyVsIvzyoVzeV0s=; b=WTCMdLkpqK9aU4TXhLyY+hPnzEjOz1kUhZYOLmZgWTNq9mF0RXGTtZdmvJaM5CB99L i1FEydqwAcvPyWE1AvCEtfXYyh7fIrSuA/84InKUDXyTLezN3qZOKI3nlVD2Wq9/Lz+j BIAnw6MVQ3HbW005/azfmhLFbHO1c2DlwqKf6V5vvFjZFFxLZd42uISqLX1iCgILhYsA aiZ7dGwSJcyBnx2Ayz5PKLYCMsGWQGAqHzu9wx3lFDLTMmDOQ6Ny10c2EAiSz/ZR/oHl 6jW52JJxh8Zv/xdkzIAAAkK1uNKjJWtZmlNVd52XPjzp09SPMJf4eI8WDDFsbme/gCkE yE4Q== X-Received: by 10.50.13.105 with SMTP id g9mr2718605igc.9.1373390846482; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 10:27:26 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.153.104 with SMTP id vf8ls5946327igb.41.canary; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 10:27:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.11.112 with SMTP id p16mr40814380igb.6.1373390846140; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 10:27:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ie0-x236.google.com (mail-ie0-x236.google.com [2607:f8b0:4001:c03::236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n13si4930408igk.1.2013.07.09.10.27.26 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Jul 2013 10:27:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::236 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4001:c03::236; Received: by mail-ie0-x236.google.com with SMTP id s9so13463135iec.13 for ; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 10:27:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.43.128.66 with SMTP id hd2mr7923287icc.89.1373390845920; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 10:27:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.29.179 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 10:27:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20130708172215.GA4227@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20130709024026.GB4227@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 13:27:25 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Baby words: "more". From: Ian Johnson To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c3117082579d04e1177965 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --001a11c3117082579d04e1177965 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:18 PM, la arxokuna wrote: > I don't believe one can easily determine if the current context has > xo'e=1; or xo'e=0; Who decides? What is the defining criterion? If you are > unsure za'u quickly becomes a synonym of su'o and we lose plural marker. > I think you could add a more explicit convention that the hidden {xo'e} is always >=1. 0 is sufficiently special that it really should never be allowed to be hidden. mi'e la latro'a mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --001a11c3117082579d04e1177965 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:18 PM, la arxokuna <gle= ki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't believe one can easily dete= rmine if the current context has xo'e=3D1; or xo'e=3D0; Who decides= ? What is the defining criterion? If you are unsure za'u quickly become= s a synonym of su'o and we lose plural marker.
I think you could add a more explicit convention th= at the hidden {xo'e} is always >=3D1. 0 is sufficiently special that= it really should never be allowed to be hidden.

mi'e la latro'a mu'o=A0

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