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I do think that colors would reduce confusion and be significantly more intuitive, however a more official tally of active jbopre would probably be smart. As for months, have we still settled on gregorian? It's, at the very least, widespread, but we don't have a zero index. (This may not be a problem however, as I don't think locale specifications take that into account) On Jul 10, 2013 9:53 AM, "Michael Turniansky" wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:27 AM, la arxokuna wrote: > >> Colors on the other hand aren't because you made it (or it's used in >>> China?) >>> >>> I still think neutrality is important, but gleki brought up a good point >>> on IRC : There's no way to be neutral when we're using someone else's >>> calendar already. >>> >> >> ti'e even bacteria have 7-day cycles. so it might be neutral. Of course >> we might ask {ma jalge?}. Is it humanity that forces bacteria to follow >> this worldwide artificial cycle. 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Most also use a decimal number system, it doesn't make i= t any less arbitrary. I do think that colors would reduce confusion and be = significantly more intuitive, however a more official tally of active jbopr= e would probably be smart.

As for months, have we still settled on gregorian? It's,= at the very least, widespread, but we don't have a zero index. (This m= ay not be a problem however, as I don't think locale specifications tak= e that into account)

On Jul 10, 2013 9:53 AM, "Michael Turniansk= y" <mturniansky@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:

= On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:27 AM, la arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@g= mail.com> wrote:

Colors on the other hand aren't because you made it (or = it's used in China?)

I still think neutrality is important, but gleki brought up = a good point on IRC : There's no way to be neutral when we're using= someone else's calendar already.


ti'e even bacteria have 7-day cycles. so it might be neutral. Of c= ourse we might ask {ma jalge?}. Is it humanity that forces bacteria to foll= ow this worldwide artificial cycle. Or is it nature that forces people to u= se it's 7-day cycle?

=A0 As I brought up back in Octobor 2010, out of 7 b= illion people in the world, of those that use a week system, approximately = only 25 million people (the Igbo) use a other-than-7-day system. =A0So, whi= le it might irk them, the 7 day system is pretty much widespread on this pl= anet.

=A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 --gejyspa

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