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la tsani cu cusku di'e
> On 17 July 2013 10:06, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com
> <mailto:mturniansky@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>        First, you meant "tcuji'e".  A ctuji'e might be a living specimen
>     in a biology class...
>        But anyhow, I don't think the miv- is necessary; it's a "selzda
>     gi'e citka vau da"
>
>
> So if Hansel and Gretel live in the candy house after defeating the
> witch, then decide to eat the house, they become its parasites.

Unless the lujvo is defined to not include such situations. In other 
words, the definition could include a {jmive} that is implicit/dropped 
from the actual lujvo:

selzdacti: x1 se zdani gi'e citka vau x2 noi jmive

Adding -miv- would make it rather long, but then -sel- could be removed 
as in the subject line, giving {mivzdacti}, with the above definition.

I would probably use either {mivzdacti} or {selzdacti}, just {zdacti} 
might not be so good.

With a word for parasite, there should also be one for host:

selctizda: x1 zdani gi'e se citka vau x2 (again the same thing about 
-miv- applies)

I have to say, the two words together form quite the tongue twister!

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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