Received: from mail-qe0-f58.google.com ([209.85.128.58]:55859) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UzTqc-0002L7-1W for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:41:11 -0700 Received: by mail-qe0-f58.google.com with SMTP id w7sf594891qeb.3 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:40:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=IsV2KyeuTXF0Q0V6shTh9+7wRpMkowVKte0a2P/oP+g=; b=VJrwNFnm9IOIN9KfkOBftqNfVYmBYkiXmrUWxrLWgiPj6A7Vr7RDgD2EV1znIjPk+W dV3njqekJeYpFDHnr66QaZBcI/44133u3CeQo/Q0MnycQLt2AGI+74pwH5QN+fy1C1z1 DCv8u5CH8HBXio468Uv9vgNsk4eg1k/dhhxGCKBQXYhOvvIiUZASIRUac0rgZaAJQucs WDTRLLOJxAwGTZehvifZnLiLt4Cc7DWXUvH+ZAELBtubZKv2p/kXOTap2RplDjNhF4sm HQEc7GR6vNuvExaJKbx7J+NYJ+E2oZj0WQ/+3yQXJlacYmYB2GSn5QpNxQTJmqZ71+5B hS0w== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=IsV2KyeuTXF0Q0V6shTh9+7wRpMkowVKte0a2P/oP+g=; b=tkdr8hAdUpy2PbcqAJPtaMVQ5d5KpiVxGSFDRmya6K/urLQB1bCWARW4FgJf19KkDb e+fmSRCcBldlmRRXliiEN/l6gtrMAJlg5NPOrSM+gOXX7yBVOwKlNEsSta/cwK4TfX9M xJncfYMnJkmAMiM4yMXuRP3y0cwb4N91KlUUiFTEIOwqdOiQYX4+G9xMwhn+1cOVl+wU ZlZhge/8g8EpDrT8Kbo689SW/v+VpbxwRe9WOQfKJzxov8qonFvVPmBiyTPWlUhiYQIu JiiDSJGsir+xGLZFzYGNNviIr41plKSoPXoob80+3i0ey4FiNv1hh96Hujr/0yWQjoC4 Cncw== X-Received: by 10.50.43.227 with SMTP id z3mr1105636igl.0.1374075651093; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:40:51 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.111.71 with SMTP id ig7ls631380igb.38.gmail; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:40:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.42.108.70 with SMTP id g6mr5077545icp.7.1374075650671; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-x22a.google.com (mail-ob0-x22a.google.com [2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22a]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c7si889752igm.0.2013.07.17.08.40.50 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22a as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22a; Received: by mail-ob0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id ef5so2474300obb.29 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:40:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.52.78 with SMTP id r14mr9078671oeo.9.1374075650479; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.4.165 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:40:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <7431048.8HQ9emOxx4@caracal> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 11:40:50 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] mivzdacti From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22a as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1133056e0a9aec04e1b6eb26 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --001a1133056e0a9aec04e1b6eb26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ah... I hadn't considered that. I was thinking the intent was "jmive ke zdani citka", not "jmive zdani citka", which is why I thought the jmive unnecessary Still, as a lujvo, of course, we can restrict the definition as much as we want from the underlying veljvo, but the the point is well-taken. (But, yes, metaphorically, Hansel and Gretel were parasitic on the house). --gejyspa On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Jacob Errington wrote: > On 17 July 2013 10:06, Michael Turniansky wrote: > >> First, you meant "tcuji'e". A ctuji'e might be a living specimen in a >> biology class... >> But anyhow, I don't think the miv- is necessary; it's a "selzda gi'e >> citka vau da" >> >> > So if Hansel and Gretel live in the candy house after defeating the witch, > then decide to eat the house, they become its parasites. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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=A0 Ah... I hadn't considered that. =A0I was thinking = the intent was "jmive ke zdani citka", not "jmive zdani citk= a", which is why I thought the jmive unnecessary =A0Still, as a lujvo,= of course, we can restrict the definition as much as we want from the unde= rlying veljvo, but the the point is well-taken. =A0(But, yes, metaphoricall= y, Hansel and Gretel were parasitic on the house).
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On Wed, Ju= l 17, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:
On 17 Jul= y 2013 10:06, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>= wrote:
=A0 First, you meant "= tcuji'e". =A0A ctuji'e might be a living specimen in a biology= class...=A0
=A0 But anyhow, I don't think the miv- is necessary; it's a "s= elzda gi'e citka vau da"


So if Hansel an= d Gretel live in the candy house after defeating the witch, then decide to = eat the house, they become its parasites.=A0

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