Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 22:27:15 -0700 (PDT)
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On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:27:20 PM UTC+4, tsani wrote:
>
> To be honest, I was mostly joking about the fairy tale reference. We can 
> restrict the lujvo meaning as much as we like, so long as the Lojban 
> definition is good.
>
> As for Gleki's remark, in order for an organism to be parasitic, must it 
> necessarily *eat* its host?
>

For me yes. Although {xaksu} host's resources might be a better definition. 
But what I meant is that it is not necessarily inhabit the host, so {zdani} 
is not one of the defining terms.
 

> If we consider a tapeworm to be a parasite, then the answer is "no", 
> because the tapeworm eats the host's food rather than the host proper. 
> However, I have no suggestions as to how to reflect this in the lujvo. 
>
> .i mi'e la tsani mu'o
>
>
> On 17 July 2013 12:07, selpa'i <sel...@gmx.de <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> It just occured to me that I prefer {mivzdacti} over the other options. 
>> Apart from tsani's argument, I somehow overlooked that  {mivzdacti} doesn't 
>> need a -sel- to begin with, so my previous post becomes more or less void.
>>
>> mivzdacti = x1 citka x2 noi jmive gi'e zdani vo'a
>>
>>
>> mu'o mi'e la selpa'i
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<br><br>On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:27:20 PM UTC+4, tsani wrote:<blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left=
: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr">To be honest, I was m=
ostly joking about the fairy tale reference. We can restrict the lujvo mean=
ing as much as we like, so long as the Lojban definition is good.<div><br><=
/div><div>As for Gleki's remark, in order for an organism to be parasitic, =
must it necessarily *eat* its host?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>=
<div>For me yes. Although {xaksu} host's resources might be a better defini=
tion. But what I meant is that it is not necessarily inhabit the host, so {=
zdani} is not one of the defining terms.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div> If we consider a ta=
peworm to be a parasite, then the answer is "no", because the tapeworm eats=
 the host's food rather than the host proper. However, I have no suggestion=
s as to how to reflect this in the lujvo.&nbsp;</div>

<div><br></div><div>.i mi'e la tsani mu'o</div></div><div><br><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote">On 17 July 2013 12:07, selpa'i <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto=3D"apztEEUsBTEJ=
">sel...@gmx.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">It just occured to me that I prefer {mivzdac=
ti} over the other options. Apart from tsani's argument, I somehow overlook=
ed that &nbsp;{mivzdacti} doesn't need a -sel- to begin with, so my previou=
s post becomes more or less void.<br>


<br>
mivzdacti =3D x1 citka x2 noi jmive gi'e zdani vo'a<div><div><br>
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mu'o mi'e la selpa'i<br>
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