Received: from mail-vc0-f190.google.com ([209.85.220.190]:45766) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1V2SHg-0003zs-32 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 13:37:21 -0700 Received: by mail-vc0-f190.google.com with SMTP id gf11sf1559vcb.7 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 13:37:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=TMsORo1MEQ5X4dyX2aFINj8Qro1REs2tq1NktaH/P6A=; b=OY+HxFW1D2piMMeIk7CGG3FFUMUSp++pINAHItMTna8o+C9V+Y3eCKAVsQ9T31RJwj g1vFMlT8DFl5YJGihALGAMIGtzgBpNzkoa3Q9R++9zIn1w8cNDR6lfzD4Cw/B8Tm/DeR YHWgT9Lu7qauYtpwzgHewQQq4FyLT0RWgsBsSrqE/ZQkasRcAHhrZCBH4SR2uKvd1kR2 tWSv8yNz7W1WjpXx0GyHQ+ZYMY6n786pdyhpQ6VklDUC0Gp14Wu2CO+CGDy2sm9iiTZs AplYlOE475H6PM99GsfEW25i5M2l9aQ0ex+hC8Td3V3PPxG8Vg7Pa/cCiHQMWMcFg8q6 ZDqw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=TMsORo1MEQ5X4dyX2aFINj8Qro1REs2tq1NktaH/P6A=; b=NGY/ghGasfim2mNKwZupX7BhkGihCPdhEi1F9sdLrESIHolTagNBVtj5ZHQ7SSkfoA iz25Lbvi699aLPFKDmo+hQRTe/xTMwFY67sw8V4tQephTH8uG8rXRXEDNkEFC1GtcXr4 NcsvrOBeqN+/sLiJN3zeMKIDFaKyjVJ503WrlVSoxyV8LbYlGd0sSTn+0DUamZ+7pl3u LahFLO81hjoZkLiWRcIWdOYo/lnKGduojWpvU5lnfjUPQ7T7yZhwbQlz0b0/hVLPqRdI j14/SgjPsmnTn+Co7zW6zgXNPELlOx4PRCw57CyW4YxPB8g4lhL5XryGX6shKcctQ502 eFwQ== X-Received: by 10.50.108.47 with SMTP id hh15mr348924igb.12.1374784625650; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 13:37:05 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.66.236 with SMTP id i12ls33306igt.11.canary; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 13:37:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.42.108.133 with SMTP id h5mr28449828icp.16.1374784624973; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 13:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-x22d.google.com (mail-ob0-x22d.google.com [2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22d]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i7si31488iga.1.2013.07.25.13.37.04 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 25 Jul 2013 13:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22d as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22d; Received: by mail-ob0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id er7so2609343obc.32 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 13:37:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.126.74 with SMTP id mw10mr552608igb.20.1374784624808; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 13:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.29.179 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 13:37:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51F15A4D.3030805@lojban.org> References: <51F15A4D.3030805@lojban.org> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 16:37:04 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] MEX ROI, MEX MOI, MEX MAI From: Ian Johnson To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22d as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b414176345a3804e25bfd51 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --047d7b414176345a3804e25bfd51 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG wrote: > MOI on the other hand is already tied to MEX at the full grammar level. > So I am not sure what it means to say that you cannot use MEX with MOI. > Almost anything can be used with MOI if you first turn it into a sumti, > and then apply a ME conversion to that sumti. You can of course turn a MEX > into a sumti using LI, so "meli MEX" with appropriate terminators should > work with MOI. I just tried it, and you need either a lo'o or a me'u to > terminate the li/me construct before the moi. I consider ME LI MEX MOI to be a hack, not a proper solution. (Not that it was a bad idea when the goal was to get a YACC working, but it's a bad idea now, when the goal is to get a PEG working.) Simply MEX MOI *should* be fine. mi'e la latro'a mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --047d7b414176345a3804e25bfd51 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Bob LeChevalier, Presiden= t and Founder - LLG <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
MOI on the other = hand is already tied to MEX at the full grammar level. =A0So I am not sure = what it means to say that you cannot use MEX with MOI. =A0Almost anything c= an be used with MOI if you first turn it into a sumti, and then apply a ME = conversion to that sumti. =A0You can of course turn a MEX into a sumti usin= g LI, so "meli MEX" with appropriate terminators should work with= MOI. =A0I just tried it, and you need either a lo'o or a me'u to t= erminate the li/me construct before the moi.
I consider ME LI MEX MOI to be a hack, not a proper solution. (Not tha= t it was a bad idea when the goal was to get a YACC working, but it's a= bad idea now, when the goal is to get a PEG working.) Simply MEX MOI *shou= ld* be fine.

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