Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 11:47:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: la arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>
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Subject: [lojban] Re: umami taste
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On Friday, July 26, 2013 4:16:28 AM UTC+4, la gusek. wrote:
>
> There aren't gismu for all the accepted ground tastes? I'm surprised.
>
> krumami - x1 has an umami taste to observer x2.
> titla - x1 is sweet/sugary/saccharine to observer x2.
> slari - x1 is sour/tart to observer x2.
> kurki - x1 is bitter/acrid/sharply disagreeable to observer/sense x2.
>
> So far so good. But then:
>
> silna - x1 is a portion/quantity of salt from source x2, of composition 
> including x3.
>
> Surely a bare "silna" can't be good to use in this context since it 
> actually refers to the physical salt (which is not clear, are we strictly 
> speaking NaCl here or all salts - ionic compounds?).
>
> Good you added krumami. That is *extremely welcomed* by me. But, I would 
> considering changing the definition to be more in line with the others. My 
> proposal:
> krumami - x1 is umami to observer x2.
>
> (...Ehm. You may ignore the above. I actually thought umami was an 
> adjective as well in English, since that would be logical. Unfortunately, I 
> can't find any proof of it.)
>
> Still. I miss the:
> x1 is salty to observer x2
>
> Am I missing something?
>

{silnyselvu'i} but yes, something is extremely patchy here. What else can 
cause sweet taste if not sugars? Oops, other chemicals can do that too? 
Then we might need a word. Not mentioning that {vrusi} itself is highly 
natlangish (although may be useful but not for this case). See this<http://mw.lojban.org/index.php/Old_Pages:_BPFK_Section:_sensory_gismu>

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<br><br>On Friday, July 26, 2013 4:16:28 AM UTC+4, la gusek. wrote:<blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left=
: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">There aren't gismu for all the accepte=
d ground tastes? I'm surprised.<br><br>krumami - x1 has an umami taste to o=
bserver x2.<br>titla - x1 is sweet/sugary/saccharine to observer x2.<br>sla=
ri - x1 is sour/tart to observer x2.<br>kurki - x1 is bitter/acrid/sharply =
disagreeable to observer/sense x2.<br><br>So far so good. But then:<br><br>=
silna - x1 is a portion/quantity of salt from source x2, of composition inc=
luding x3.<br><br>Surely a bare "silna" can't be good to use in this contex=
t since it actually refers to the physical salt (which is not clear, are we=
 strictly speaking NaCl here or all salts - ionic compounds?).<br><br>Good =
you added krumami. That is <b>extremely welcomed</b> by me. But, I would co=
nsidering changing the definition to be more in line with the others. My pr=
oposal:<br>krumami - x1 is umami to observer x2.<br><br>(...Ehm. You may ig=
nore the above. I actually thought umami was an adjective as well in Englis=
h, since that would be logical. Unfortunately, I can't find any proof of it=
.)<br><br>Still. I miss the:<br>x1 is salty to observer x2<br><br>Am I miss=
ing something?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>{silnyselvu'i} but yes, =
something is extremely patchy here. What else can cause sweet taste if not =
sugars? Oops, other chemicals can do that too? Then we might need a word. N=
ot mentioning that {vrusi} itself is highly natlangish (although may be use=
ful but not for this case). See <a href=3D"http://mw.lojban.org/index.php/O=
ld_Pages:_BPFK_Section:_sensory_gismu">this</a></div>

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