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On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:03:14 -0400
Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:
> Your call, but to be honest, I believe this to be unnecessary as
> cmavo4 is already a language by the definition of {cmavo}, therefore
> saying {lo lojbo} in cmavo4 must refer to the lojbanic language and
> not some merely something lojbanic in nature.
At least =93la lojban.=94 wouldn=92t be too overspecified. :P
But yeah, maybe =93lo lojbo=94 would be enough, too.

> You've made one of the most common mistakes: using la (or one of its
> friends) in cmene1.
Dang it! What an epic failure. :-D
The more I learn about Lojban, the more I love it. :-)

> Why not use {selma'o} as the delimiter?
Ummmmmm =85 That=92s a =85 good =85 ummm =85 question. Because =93sy=94 is =
just 1
syllable long? *ducks-and-runs*
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> Thus, I'd write the notes as {.i zoi selma'o BAI selma'o ji'a cmene
> $x_1$}.
I agree.

> In the old morphology (=85)
And where are the rules for the modern morpology? In the CLL? Where are
the changes from old to modern documented? I ask because I would be
interested to see the differences. It would be dumb if I learned
something which is out-dated. :-(


> {cmavrxrui} is *REALLY* hard to say. That's five consonants in a row.
Ouch, I didn=92t even consider trying to pronounce that. =93rxr=94 is
obviously a very bad choice. Thanks for pointing this out.

> My suggestion is to lower the complexity of the consonant cluster,
> instead using a suffix, namely "vo" from the end of "cmavo"
Interesting.

> UI: cmavrui, since in the modern morphology this is a perfectly
> acceptable type-3 zi'evla.
So the =93u=94 of =93ui=94 is really considered a consonant, although it is
written as an =93u=94. Oooookaaaay =85


> Here's my version of the flowchart:
> selma'o name contains y -> use brivla
> starts with other vowel -> r-hyphen, x-hyphen, selma'o, vo-suffix.
> starts with r -> n-hyphen, selma'o
> starts with other consonant -> r-hyphen, selma'o
I agree.

A lot of thanks to you. You were very helpful. I guess I=92ll update
the wiki page with all the suggestions you made. But not now, I am
tired now. Good night.

BTW: Good job I did ask _before_ changing the wiki page. :-)

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Wuzzy

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